tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post970126839213676979..comments2024-03-28T20:51:56.173-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Tom King Interview On Supergirl RadioAnjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-26420973581710935172021-06-17T20:38:25.632-04:002021-06-17T20:38:25.632-04:00"....She's likely to be beating bad guys ..."....She's likely to be beating bad guys up with relish and a curse word on her lips."<br /><br />I can't help but wonder...does she hit 'em on the head with the jar of relish, or does she take the relish out and throw it in their faces? And what brand of relish does she use? Is Heinz better or Del Monte? And if there's no relish around, would another condiment work just as well?Professor Feetlebaumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-47252618193239042252021-06-17T19:00:52.329-04:002021-06-17T19:00:52.329-04:00"Ever get the feeling you've been cheated..."Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" Johnny Lydon, 1978<br /><br />:)<br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-47502284724324122052021-06-17T01:50:59.616-04:002021-06-17T01:50:59.616-04:00There must be that one guy in their editorial comi...There must be that one guy in their editorial coming with the same idea over and over but once in a while adding:<br />"...but in a black miniskirt"<br />"...but in a red leotard"<br />"...but in fetish gear"<br />We've now reached<br />"...but as a cowgirl"<br /><br />I think bad-tempered nurse is nextAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-1086226399290105462021-06-15T01:56:21.831-04:002021-06-15T01:56:21.831-04:00That DC would hire Tom King, with his track record...That DC would hire Tom King, with his track record, to write Supergirl shows what they think of the character. They know how King writes. He yam what he yam. It's no coincidence that a version of Dark Supergirl is trotted out every so often. This is the Supergirl they wish to promote. Don't ask me why.<br /><br />A Supergirl story that begins with Kara in a space bar, alone and drunk on her birthday is not getting off to a good start.Professor Feetlebaumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-50507359736103931562021-06-14T12:30:40.008-04:002021-06-14T12:30:40.008-04:00"Let's start with his stating that Kara i..."Let's start with his stating that Kara is harsher and more cynical than Superman." So I was right, she is gonna be "Blonde Sonja"...yikes. I can't say I see much hope in the substance of that interview, our host is taking one for the team by listening and crafting his response so very meticulously, kudos Anj. From a creative perspective, you can be well informed about a character, passionate about that character and still the very last person on Earth who should be writing that character. I cannot image why King went back to 1959 in his research re Supergirl unless it was to catalogue all the aspects of her character he wishes to eliminate. I am led to the conclusion (as noted above) that literally DC Comics does not even read or recall certainly the very supergirl comics they have been publishing since 2005, that this is going to be her fifth torrid tango with cynicism & darkness in sixteen years. She has become a character that DC either actively dislikes or else regards a copyright cypher fit only for creatives to experiment on...its depressing quite honestly.<br />But I'll reserve judgement until I read it Wednesday night, right now, I'm not getting my hopes up.<br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-710749850599959282021-06-14T10:40:20.096-04:002021-06-14T10:40:20.096-04:00There are parts of King’s observations that make s...There are parts of King’s observations that make sense to me, others that don’t. <br /><br />As you mention Anj, I’m not sure what Kara Zor-El DC was talking to King about, it certainly doesn’t align with the portrayals we’ve seen since she was brought back in the 21st century. She’s been dark, troubled, moody, and often a mind-controlled minion for some big-bad that the “real” heroes of the adventure need to defeat. For the last couple of years her book has been used as a place to tell side-stories for other character’s events or to promote new characters some creator wants to push. If King wants to deal with the “precious” part of the portrayals he should make a point of avoiding the seeming constant need on the part of DC to turn this powerful woman into a damsel-in-distress and easily manipulated pawn instead of a hero, or have the book just become little more than a promotional vehicle for events and crossovers.<br /><br />Sadly, King’s observations seem to point to a significant problem, but not the one he seems to see. The barnacles on Kara are DC’s unwillingness to look at her as a character in her own right, but instead see her as either an extension of Superman, as an outlet for various creator’s pet projects, or sometimes as what feels like a place for creators to work out their issues about their own damage. There are many successful young female characters at Marvel, and in anime and manga as well, and by successful I mean ones that young women will buy. If the Supergirl book doesn’t sell and DC actually wants to fix that problem they should look at other successful characters in their stable, make a list of what all those books have in common, and then ask which of those items are not in their portrayals of Supergirl. That list won’t be the things that King has mentioned.<br /><br />This is just an 8 issue run, and feels more like a creator’s pet project featuring a character he wants to promote, and doesn’t feel like the start of anything special for Kara Zor-El. I’ll certainly look through the book in my LCS, but I’m going to need much more than I’ve seen so far to spend money on it.Gearnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-1984702851364088652021-06-14T10:37:21.788-04:002021-06-14T10:37:21.788-04:00Well, presumably, the suit later.
At the start - ...Well, presumably, the suit later.<br /><br />At the start - The blonde hair. <br /><br />That's what's left of Kara Zor-El, last daughter of Krypton. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-84277108447800909752021-06-14T10:29:55.281-04:002021-06-14T10:29:55.281-04:00I also agree with everything you are saying Anj.
...I also agree with everything you are saying Anj.<br /><br />One personal observation:<br /><br />The problem with Kara being reduced to little more than a girl who kicks ass is sadly being validated by a sizable part of her reader base.<br /><br />When it comes to other characters there is often a somewhat shared vision. Kara had that too pre-crisis. From the first to her last issue, everything felt like the natural progression of the same character.<br /><br />Modern DC however has let everything go. Many readers are validating that behavior. Everything is OK. It's range or modernization or just something they like. At the end of it though, if you accept everything, you care about nothing.<br /><br />When readers let it happen its also hard to blame DC for Kara becoming a blank canvas with Kryptonian powers.<br /><br />Would Binder recognize anything in the drunk ass miserable being picking bar fights and waving a sword?<br /><br />Yeah, the suit and the blonde hair.<br /><br />Super used to mean more than being able to punch really hard. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-82547406275797515852021-06-14T10:11:29.813-04:002021-06-14T10:11:29.813-04:00I agree with everything you say, Anj – I listened ...I agree with everything you say, Anj – I listened to this interview, and was initially heartened by his familiarity with Supergirl, then appalled and saddened by his attitude towards her. For example, the notion that she’s likely to be beating bad guys up with relish and a curse word on her lips. Really?Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-5879438001047628682021-06-14T08:50:30.077-04:002021-06-14T08:50:30.077-04:00I'll be following this solely in you and Marti...I'll be following this solely in you and Martin's reviews. I just can't take King's writing anymore. I skipped Omega Men because the early press focused on what turned out to be a fake killing off of my favorite GL and that left a bad taste. Grayson and Vision were excellent but everything else? Batman went wildly off the rails after the wedding that wasn't. He did characterizations of Booster Gold and Wally West that had never been seen before and haven't been used after. He's dirtying up Adam Strange and now this. Eventually he's going to turn off so many fans of each character he sullies that it will end but we probably still have a few characters he'll stain before then.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12481829406510429627noreply@blogger.com