tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post7915205958357937789..comments2024-03-29T10:34:59.159-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Review: Superman/Wonder Woman #2Anjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-22624902732502550712013-11-26T19:14:24.487-05:002013-11-26T19:14:24.487-05:00The issue was competent, with the odd nice bit, bu...The issue was competent, with the odd nice bit, but I think this is my last issue - I'm not a fan of the current Wonder Woman and as I've likely said previously, I'm rather sick of Zod, even before we get to the inevitable 'kneel' reference.Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-44201823906677388192013-11-21T03:36:31.286-05:002013-11-21T03:36:31.286-05:00Wait, didn't Superman meet Eros, god of love a...<br /><br />Wait, didn't Superman meet Eros, god of love and Wonder Woman's cousin, back in Young Romance?<br />The one where Clark and Diana are on a date, but Superman gets mind-controlled by sirens and backhands<br />Wonder Woman, and the story ends with Eros shooting Superman with a magic bullet (?), but he<br /> catches in his hand. Whatever happened afterwards?<br /><br />Hopefully later this book will balance both elements of Superman's Phantom Zone criminals and Wonder<br /> Woman's Greek Pantheon family.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-4622366099014916172013-11-20T21:38:08.870-05:002013-11-20T21:38:08.870-05:00Well, one thing is stad up against a insult and ot...Well, one thing is stad up against a insult and other is go straight for threats. Wonder Woman is strong enough to deal with it, without Superman. They had bigger problems like Doomsday to deal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-37975018576989816402013-11-20T18:57:47.102-05:002013-11-20T18:57:47.102-05:00Thanks for all the comments.
I will freely admit...Thanks for all the comments. <br /><br />I will freely admit that despite having read the book twice in preparation for the review, I glossed over the word 'slut' in Apollo's rant both times. In my head he was kind of an aloof jackass but that word does indeed cross some type of line in my head. So maybe the 'don't talk to her like that again' line makes much more sense.<br /><br />I will also admit that I am trying to understand this relationship and as a result I am scrutinizing it closely (ironic since I missed a key word). I mean, it would take something major for me to threaten by girlfriend's brother the first time I met him ... even if he was a bit of a jerk. I suppose sullying her reputation might be one of them.<br /><br />The Pa Kent analogy is a good one. I doubt he'd let Martha be besmirched.<br /><br />I still don't know if I agree with a lot of the characterization here but that scene reads a little easier now that I see the insult.<br /><br />Anyways, as always, its the dialogue and conversation that I love here. Thanks for having me look again.<br /><br />Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-75284259323788656042013-11-20T18:35:25.435-05:002013-11-20T18:35:25.435-05:00Apparently watching a woman you love get insulted ...Apparently watching a woman you love get insulted and standing up to it is patriarchy now. Yeah that's BS. Sometimes there is a genuine concern re gender equality and then there is walking around with a chip on one's shoulder or a determination to be offended. No woman I know would call it that. Nor would I let anyone speak about a woman I love that way and not say a word and I would hope she would stand up for me too if the position was reversed. And WW has defended Superman many a time in the past so let's not be hypocrites now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-28483202968836261712013-11-20T16:57:42.776-05:002013-11-20T16:57:42.776-05:00I think Superman was more than justified to warn A...I think Superman was more than justified to warn Apollo in the manner he did. Manners go out the window when you call a loved one a slut. I'd imagine that Jonathan would have had a similar reaction if anyone insulted Martha in such a crass way. This is far from a situation in which I think the Kents would be disappointed in their son.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-78577960163592974052013-11-20T15:24:48.405-05:002013-11-20T15:24:48.405-05:00I don't know. Am I being too stodgy?
In this ...<i>I don't know. Am I being too stodgy?</i><br /><br />In this case yes. <br />Superman stood silent and dignified as Apollo hurled insult after painful insult at him, it's only when Apollo then turns on Diana that he steps up and *asks* Apollo to cut it out...<br />I think that level of restraint and patience is entirely in line with Superman's traditional characterisation, it takes <b>a lot</b> to provoke him. I like Scott Snyder's Superman for the same reasons I like Scott Lobdell's - both are writing to capture the traditional elements of Superman's character and cast it in a contemporary setting, if you want a surly short-tempered brute of a Superman then it is the likes of Geoff Johns' version you should be tearing into. But Snyder & Lobdell get my respect as like Grant Morrison they refuse to cast <b>that</b> introverted loner as their preferred version of the character. <br /><br />I was impressed at how well Snyder & Daniel captured the Gods, Stryfe's reaction to Superman's power and confidence was not much different to her reaction to Diana's new 'boyfriend' Orion in WW#17, for a god she is very immature and her relationship with Wonder Woman is very much one of a jealous sister.<br /><br />Regards. :)Dave Mullenhttp://www.comicboards.com/superman/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-26485930385940500302013-11-20T12:01:55.434-05:002013-11-20T12:01:55.434-05:00Anj: I've always thought that Morrison address...Anj: I've always thought that Morrison addressed the "Death of..." storyline in Action. If the nu52 is a re-imagining, big events from the old DC should be covered in similar ways. <br /><br />Wonder why Daniels has WW with her thigh strap and sword, it's gone in the Justice League. From what I've read, WW can now create swords from her bracelets. Because nu52.Wayne Allen Salleehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17199261942617339556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-65496002658765263922013-11-20T10:01:03.499-05:002013-11-20T10:01:03.499-05:00"Family is tough"....?
Yeah, because he..."Family is tough"....?<br /><br />Yeah, because he's always concerned about and always ready to stick his neck out for his own flesh and blood.<br /><br />Or perhaps I'm thinking of some other character. One who didn't let his cousin and his clone wander off into danger after they'd all been through some horrible stuff. <br /><br />Pfft.<br /><br />I do wonder if this takes place before the current Superman/Supergirl/Superboy crossover or after it... it's getting a bit hard to put this all in the correct context now!AndNowInStereohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021894582408478305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-40647766128923785472013-11-20T08:56:48.295-05:002013-11-20T08:56:48.295-05:00Anj, you are not out of touch. I'm a young fe...Anj, you are not out of touch. I'm a young female fan. I'm part of DC's supposed 18-34 demo---I'm just female and not male. I was part of the demo that WB marketed Smallville towards. I watched Smallville for 10 years. I say that bc....I am not opposed to "new" takes on this character. I can even enjoy new things if they feel like they are still respecting the core of the myth. This is not doing that. This is wrong.<br /><br />I'm actually more angry about Wonder Woman's characterization which is just pathetic here. Wonder Womam is impressed by a patriarchal display of male posturing? That's....terrible. That's so far off the mark that I don't even know where to start.<br /><br />This entire issue read like a male power fantasy from start to finish. I'm stunner that Soule put Superman in a position to conquer Diana's worldview like this and I'm appalled that it's presented as romantic.<br /><br />It's not just "old" fans who are insulted by this. And it's not "antiquated" to believe that there are certain core tenants of 75 year old myths that should be held just a little bit sacred. That's the whole point of myth. Yes---they evolve. Shows like Smallville are proof of that. That was targeted to a younger demographic. But this is a different level of taking two mythos, diluting them together and then spitting all over the point.<br /><br />It insults me as a Superman fan. It enrages me as a Wonder Woman fan. <br /><br />---Shades Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com