tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post4877596310544577885..comments2024-03-29T10:34:59.159-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Review: Superman #14Anjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-37758080035590188112012-12-05T17:49:01.147-05:002012-12-05T17:49:01.147-05:00I take it you've heard the news ...
;)I take it you've heard the news ...<br /><br />;)Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-22772698877810936872012-12-05T17:23:17.900-05:002012-12-05T17:23:17.900-05:00I had to laugh when you asked "where is edito...<i>I had to laugh when you asked "where is editor Eddie Berganza" in all this. Berganza to me is notorious for just this kind of mischaracterization and ignoring of continuity. Remember, he was in charge during the "Crystal Hell-Kill Kal-el" phase of the previous Supergirl </i><br /><br />I know this all too well (and comment on it tomorrow).<br /><br />I just hoped he might ... you know ... edit.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-86795532082955454672012-12-05T17:20:21.766-05:002012-12-05T17:20:21.766-05:00I had to laugh when you asked "where is edito...I had to laugh when you asked "where is editor Eddie Berganza" in all this. Berganza to me is notorious for just this kind of mischaracterization and ignoring of continuity. Remember, he was in charge during the "Crystal Hell-Kill Kal-el" phase of the previous Supergirl until DC wised up and brought in Gates to fix it.Gerry Beritelanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-46216310942129344822012-12-02T09:51:05.665-05:002012-12-02T09:51:05.665-05:00I'd love to see Gail Simone on Supergirl, she ...I'd love to see Gail Simone on Supergirl, she writes the best cliffhangers in the business bar none.<br />BUT the above remarks do not caption the specific gender of the "iconic character" under discussion, she could easily be talking about The Green Lantern.<br />:D<br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-70228004470597868872012-12-02T06:21:17.920-05:002012-12-02T06:21:17.920-05:00Thanks for the post John.
I do wonder why this ha...Thanks for the post John.<br /><br />I do wonder why this has to be an internal struggle within the characters as opposed to a true team-up.<br /><br />Like the Matrix/Supergirl or not, there were years where she was independent in her own book but occasionally crossed over as part of Team Superman as a partner in heroism.<br /><br />I hope we eventually get there in the DCnU.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-42424075826499103862012-12-02T06:19:42.914-05:002012-12-02T06:19:42.914-05:00Thanks for the post Kim.
Interesting thought abou...Thanks for the post Kim.<br /><br />Interesting thought about Simone. <br /><br />As much as I like her stuff, I don't want to see a creative upheaval on this SG book which is progressing nicely.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-9364572711965476032012-12-01T19:25:15.836-05:002012-12-01T19:25:15.836-05:00In the "Super Family Franchise", we desp...In the "Super Family Franchise", we desperately need an editorial level commitment to the notion that Superman IS NOT a zero sum game. In other words his gains in popularity etc cannot come at the expense of Supergirl. I kinda feel like it has been a zero sum game since COIE #7, and it needs to stop for the good of both characters.<br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-7557956984458686142012-12-01T09:58:58.150-05:002012-12-01T09:58:58.150-05:00"So where will this story go in the next chap..."So where will this story go in the next chapter in Superboy?"<br /><br />I'm still extremely mad about this, but I have a slight shred of hope that Kara will come out of this okay. Because this crossover isn't 100% Lobdell, Mike is still in there, and he knows what he is doing. I really really hope that he somehow can rectify this.<br /><br />Also, Gail Simone said a few days ago on her tumblr that she had been asked to write an iconic character she'd never written before. She's under exclusive contract with DC, so that excludes Storm/Invisible Woman. And she's written almost all iconic DC women. The only two exceptions I can think of are Supergirl and Catwoman. And Catwoman got a new creative team recently. So, I think Gail is set to become the new Supergirl writer. Even though I love Mike's take on her, this fills me with hope, because it's Gail.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055675095443418258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-33144108047300774852012-12-01T08:11:26.832-05:002012-12-01T08:11:26.832-05:00Thanks for all the great comments. One thing is fo...Thanks for all the great comments. One thing is for sure, this issue got a big reaction.<br /><br />I don't think I am too off the mark with the assessment of an overall different tone with this issue from the last. That look of clarity on Kara's face when she calls Kon 'he' last issue is replaced by a sneer as she calls him 'clone' when Superman says 'boy'.<br /><br />And I think that Superman's speech is still off with the 'booty call', 'did you have oxygen', 'kick your butt into space' jargon.<br /><br />But it is clear that Supergirl is being set up to be the patsy here. And that saddens me.<br /><br />So where will this story go in the next chapter in Superboy?Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-53638645939501742382012-12-01T01:05:44.443-05:002012-12-01T01:05:44.443-05:00"The guy who choked Kara and called her "..."The guy who choked Kara and called her "peroxide brat" wasn't Superman; it was H'el in disguise"<br />Superman: "I'm going to put this as politely as possible, Kara. But did my uncle send any oxygen with you in your pod?!"<br /><br />And that was 100% Superman, at least in Lobdells mind. Anybody sane knows that's completely wrong. Superman would never say something like that, even to his worst enemies. Having him say it to Kara is... So bad.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055675095443418258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-86317003947504244612012-12-01T00:34:45.162-05:002012-12-01T00:34:45.162-05:00@ Christie: Like Anj, you really need to pay atten...@ Christie: Like Anj, you really need to pay attention to everything that is happening. The guy who choked Kara and called her "peroxide brat" wasn't Superman; it was H'el in disguise, trying to turn her against Superman.PRgirl1294https://www.blogger.com/profile/17851850537996919465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-33272705093866521962012-11-30T21:20:57.064-05:002012-11-30T21:20:57.064-05:00I don't like this Superman!! He's mean and...I don't like this Superman!! He's mean and cruel!! And he's impatient!! He dumps all over Kara, but when it's her turn to dump on him, he can't take it!! He's the one that's not fair!! "Peroxide brat"?? How stupid is that?? Supergirl's hair has always been blonde!! And, excuse me, Superman saying, "Booty call"???!!! Woof!! Superman is supposed to be a role model to kids, not a rap/hip-hop spewing creep!! And he also chokes Kara into oblivion!! THIS IS NOT SUPERMAN!! I'm telling DC now, change him or you'll be sorry!! 'Nuff said!!Christienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-67828917079444938832012-11-30T19:12:15.414-05:002012-11-30T19:12:15.414-05:00Wow talk about jobbed out! This Supergirl is rathe...Wow talk about jobbed out! This Supergirl is rather easily manipulated by the Big Bad eh?<br />Sort of like the way The Incredible Hulk was routinely tricked into attacking The Avengers, The Fantastic Four or whoever.<br />In both cases no great respect is admitted by the writers with respect to The Hulk or Supergirl's intellect...which are fast making the parallels depressing as far as I am concerned.<br />Don't see this mini doing Supergirl any good whatsoever...<br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-74273958235024130732012-11-30T15:04:53.550-05:002012-11-30T15:04:53.550-05:00I fully agree with the assessment. Perhaps I would...I fully agree with the assessment. Perhaps I would give even an assessment below. I do not know if it is a fault that after a very bad numbers "Superman" from 1 to 12 I expected that Scott Lebdell show us something special, or maybe crossover will develop differently than we see now. It is very unfortunate that what Grant Morrison in Action Comics, Mike Johnson and Mahmud Asrar in Supergirl build on the plus in Superman universe, Scott and Kenneth Rocafort Lebdell, for now, unfortunately, pulled down.<br />I'm sorry if my english is not entirely correct. I'm still learning.<br /><br />Greetings from Poland.<br />John.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07890316264785074591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-36238315767589049822012-11-30T12:36:06.189-05:002012-11-30T12:36:06.189-05:00"Here is the deal ... I was honestly surprise..."Here is the deal ... I was honestly surprised that this turned out the be H'El. Because, unfortunately, I could completely see Lobdell's Superman talk like this to his cousin."<br /><br />Yeah, the way he insulted her earlier... About revealing his Clark Kent life... When he had not even revealed to her before that he had a secret identity. Superman insulting her was asshole-y in the extreme. This issues basically showed Kal as a complete ass.<br /><br />Lobdell should be kept as far away as possible for the Superfamily. He actually showed some basic understanding earlier this year, when he dismissed the claims of Superman being too powerful or unable to relate to in exactly the right way. Superman is far more relatable than Batman, and only 2nd rate writers thinks hugely powerful characters are limiting.<br /><br />But here, he demonstrates he has no idea whatsoever who Superman is... I mean... The insults he threw at Kara... Who is that man cosplaying as Superman? It sure as HELL isn't Clark/Kal.<br /><br />Mike Johnson writes Kara in a good way. Why the heck does Lobdell have to try and sabotage that? And remember an earlier interview, where he and Mike (I forgot who) said Kal would be closer to one and more distant to one of Supergirl and Superboy after the crossover. It's clear it's Supergirl they want to be the outcast. Because that worked so well the last time, and they didn't retcon it with bad kryptonite and other stuff.<br /><br />This crossover, at its core, is brilliant. The execution... Well, Lobdell has good ideas. He shouldn't ever be allowed to put them into scripts for actual comics.<br /><br />God, this comic made me seethe.Kimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09055675095443418258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-37484710124998741352012-11-30T11:45:00.423-05:002012-11-30T11:45:00.423-05:00I think that you're being a little too rough w...I think that you're being a little too rough with this. Superman may have been a little harsh with Kara, but he was tired and he was in an awkward situation with Lois and coming to his apartment unannounced was uncalled for. Plus, I don't think that the Supergirl here was that different from how she was in Supergirl #14. Remember that how distrustful she was of most humans. Also, she might have thought of Superboy as human for a split second, but she still had her underlying views about clones. She said "Not yet", remember? And honestly, I thought that the way that Superman attacked H'el for threatening Superboy was less brash and more "Papa Wolfish". Asking nicely for H'el spare the kid wouldn't have worked and Superman did say that he wanted him to land where no one would get hurt. I think that you need to stop being so selective with what you pick up and start paying attention to everything that's being said and done. Either way, I'm excited for the rest of this crossover.PRgirl1294https://www.blogger.com/profile/17851850537996919465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-37516624252664343552012-11-30T09:34:13.112-05:002012-11-30T09:34:13.112-05:00Ha, you're spot on about how easily the 'S...Ha, you're spot on about how easily the 'Superman' making 'peroxide' comments could have been the Lobdell Superman. By the time he was wrapping Kara around the lamppost, though, I was thinking H'el.<br /><br />It's certainly true that the Kara/Kal relationship took a step back from last week's Supergirl, but the more I think about it, the more I reckon H'el is psychically damping down Kara's empathy for Earth people. Lobdell can't really believe this gal is the one Mike Johnson wrote last week, can he?<br /><br />Please say no!Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.com