tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post333892177023287573..comments2024-03-27T19:22:03.112-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Review: Action Comics #31Anjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-60526512922819494212014-05-18T00:05:44.988-04:002014-05-18T00:05:44.988-04:00I hope so too, as I want to see their friendship f...I hope so too, as I want to see their friendship fleshed out a lot more. I liked what Morrison and Lobdell did there for the brief time they touched up on it. Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-80386519427540782792014-05-17T21:35:33.274-04:002014-05-17T21:35:33.274-04:00I concur that Lois has been treated shabbily in th...I concur that Lois has been treated shabbily in the New 52.<br /><br />But I can't blame Pak for this editorial fiat. And I think that I'd rather have a spunky Lana than no strong female characters at all.<br /><br />But to take it a step further, Cat Grant is a stronger presence in the Super books than Lois. And that is sad.<br /><br />Hopefully when things settle out once Johns comes back on then Lois will reemerge.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-22329377942452997152014-05-17T18:48:27.191-04:002014-05-17T18:48:27.191-04:00I get it just fine, I just disagree is all. I res...I get it just fine, I just disagree is all. I respect your opinion but I don't share them.<br /><br />The only thing I believe done badly to Lois in the New 52 thus far is that she hasn't been utilized enough. Other than that, no complaints from me. I know her history, I know the complaints. Just because I don't share them doesn't mean I don't get it.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-78744804506284371582014-05-17T17:59:10.182-04:002014-05-17T17:59:10.182-04:00Jay, I'm sorry but you are incorrect again and...Jay, I'm sorry but you are incorrect again and clearly not getting it. <br /><br />No, there is no monopoly in believing in Superman. Jimmy Olsen, Perry, Kara, The Kents even Metroplis often believe in Superman.<br /><br />However, there are several major narratives now paramount to the foundation of the mythos including All Star, Birthright, Secret Origins, Lois and Clark, Smallville and Man of Steel that HINGE on Lois, specifically, reaching out her hand without fear while others turn away.<br /><br />This goes back to Action 1 in 1938. "you needn't be afraid of me, I won't harm you." This is integral to the myth. This is part of the guts not only of Lois as a journalist unafraid of the alien but to their relationship. <br /><br />So, no, of course there is no monopoly on "believing" in Superman. But when the female who has been the literal guts of that narrative for decades is pushed to the background while others are allowed to step forward in bravery that raises extreme red flags. When important female characters ---Lois, Kara, Diana etc---are written in ways that seek to downgrade the legacy that they have built over decades of history in a genre that ::still:: struggles with gender equality that is a problem and people are allowed to be concerned. ---Shades Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-27549811957434350812014-05-17T17:47:40.627-04:002014-05-17T17:47:40.627-04:00Jay, I'm sorry but again I disagree.
I give P...Jay, I'm sorry but again I disagree.<br /><br />I give Pak credit for trying to engage with fans. But his answers, while well meaning, have been more than a little problematic and, to be frank, have revealed that he has some gender blind spots that he probably needs to address. These blind spots have been politely and intelligently pointed out to him in the replies to his questions.<br /><br />I think he means well and I think he's been put in a very hard spot. But what's been done to Lois is not excusable and women need to be allowed to talk about why it makes them uncomfortable. <br /><br />This isn't going to be fixed overnight and it goes beyond Mr. Pak. DC has done nothing with Lois in the last almost 3 years to earn any trust save the one shot which, though lovely, they did virtually nothing to promote. Trust isn't given it's earned and currently trust had not been earned with Lois Lane. Period. ----ShadesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-2972655231646620392014-05-17T16:03:23.964-04:002014-05-17T16:03:23.964-04:00But while I agree that Lois should have a larger r...But while I agree that Lois should have a larger role than she has, she doesn't have a monopoly on believing in Superman. Those aren't traits unique to only her thus its not wrong in any way shape or form to portray Lana and Wonder Woman this way. <br /><br />These aren't "Lois's traits". They're traits she should have, yes, but they do not belong exclusively to her character.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-39454780403269999532014-05-17T14:48:29.521-04:002014-05-17T14:48:29.521-04:00The problem is the things Lois fans don't love...The problem is the things Lois fans don't love are out of character. The things Lois fans like about Lois are beng presented through Diana and Lana. Not cool.<br /><br />And yes, I get brainiac is involved right now, still very disheartening to see Diana and Lana boasting Lois' traits while she continues to get shoved to the background.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-41393569208083441082014-05-17T12:04:56.900-04:002014-05-17T12:04:56.900-04:00Pak has been very gracious and honest on Twitter a...Pak has been very gracious and honest on Twitter and tumblr answering questions put forth by concerned Lois fans, and he very clearly pointed out that while he understands that Lois's fans aren't going to like some of the things she does, that she's also going to do things that he thinks they'll love. <br /><br />He's earned my trust so I have no reason to disbelieve him and thus fully believe she'll have a large role to play. Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-17080905614246650512014-05-17T07:54:58.950-04:002014-05-17T07:54:58.950-04:00I don't agree. Lois wasn't even mentioned...I don't agree. Lois wasn't even mentioned one time in their latest interview. I'm sure this story is being set up for Diana to look heroic---not Lois.<br /><br />And I'm sorry but I think it's a pretty big problem that Lois has been in a coma/controlled/possessed and not had control of her own body for over a year now. It's violating and wrong. It's a cheap, lazy way to keep her on the sidelines while they continue to steal traits from her and give them to others.<br /><br />I couldn't believe that Soule had Diana use the Erica Durance playful arm punch on Clark this month. The number of things he has lifted not just from comics Lois but from Smallville is shocking and hurtful. Meanwhile, Lois seems to be everyone's last priority. Just stick her in a coma or mind control her. It's unacceptable and I'm sick of seeing people make excuses for it. ---ShadesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-49464854591591248692014-05-16T22:24:07.833-04:002014-05-16T22:24:07.833-04:00Pak isn't writing Lois right now. He's es...Pak isn't writing Lois right now. He's essentially writing Brainiac. I'll judge Pak's writing of Lois when he actually gets a chance to write the real her. Which I anticipate will come at some point in this very story. Her breaking free of Brainiac I believe will be one of many keys in order for Superman to be broken free of Doomsday.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-67212085428874462272014-05-16T10:22:29.649-04:002014-05-16T10:22:29.649-04:00I'm just frustrated with Pak because I expect ...I'm just frustrated with Pak because I expect better from him with Lois. <br /><br />So much of who Lois is has been sacrificed and taken from her. I totally appreciate Lana Lang and I know that she's been Pak's project with this book bc he was told he couldn't use Lois. I don't begrudge attention being paid to her at all. But....this just isn't right.<br /><br />Lois has always been the true believer in Superman. That's something really special and despite the flawed nature of Man of Steel it was even something that carried over to the new film. We see it in All Star Superman, in Secret Origins, in Birthright. On Lois and Clark. On Smallville. This is iconic to Lois. She believes in Superman. And I think what people forget is that she believes in him :: without:: having known him as a child. Her faith isn't rooted on growing up with Clark Kent as Lana's is----it's rooted purely in that alien side of Clark that, in Mark Waid's words, she is "not afraid" of even as others might be afraid of this newcomer. To have this taken from her....here as a way, I guess, to build Lana up just feels so hurtful and wrong. I know Pak is a good man but I just don't understand why he would do this. It's wrong.<br /><br />Lois and Lana's reaction to Wonder Woman is also troubling though....I don't think Lana's reaction is out of character per se. Lana has always loved Clark Kent but that "alien" side of him ::has:: been a place she didn't always feel she could go. So I can see why she would assume WW was above her. (Even if it's not true bc Lana is an equal.). But Lois? Lois 's confidence defines her. This woman goes after Superman bc she's ::that:: secure. While I can totally see her impressed by Diana as an individual, watching her cheerlead the romance is just...:sad. Sad, out of character and feels manipulative. <br /><br />I don't know what else to say. I've seen a lot of sad women after reading this issue and I'm one of them. I like Greg Pak but he and Charles Soule (who continues to keep stealing little moments from Lois and re-purposing them) and Scott Lobdell (who has had her in a coma or mind controlled all year) have just made me so sad.---Shades Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-42155878298185508192014-05-16T09:02:44.963-04:002014-05-16T09:02:44.963-04:00Well ... better than expected.
And thinking issue...Well ... better than expected.<br /><br />And thinking issues like this, playing up the character rather than the action usually appeal to me more.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-41150571894117618682014-05-16T08:52:03.897-04:002014-05-16T08:52:03.897-04:00I'm surprised you're liking this Anj. I...I'm surprised you're liking this Anj. I've hated this event already since the first issue with its vapid story, anti climatic action and shock value endings. There's no depth or sincerity to the story at all even without the image of Superman tearing Doomsday in half.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com