tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post1203755628675288319..comments2024-03-29T10:34:59.159-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Rebirth ?Anjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-5180427609531683222018-11-25T14:02:46.676-05:002018-11-25T14:02:46.676-05:00"I just want the pre-Flashpoint DCU back.&quo..."I just want the pre-Flashpoint DCU back."<br /><br />New Earth is dead. It'll never be back, right like the Pre-Crisis DCU will never be back.<br /><br />If the Pre-Crisis universe wasn't untouchable, why should the Pre-Flashpoint universe be spared?<br /><br />"I want Titans who are childhood friends and Titans who are parents. I want Linda Danvers and Matrix and a Cass Cain who used to call herself Batgirl and a Donna Troy that didn't slaughter a bunch of men because they were men."<br /><br />I'm sorry, but the only reason because Matrix and that Linda Danvers were around was DC's refusal to bring the iconic Supergirl back. After the anti-Kryptonian ban was lifted, they weren't needed.<br /><br />Same deal with Cassandra. She only was Batgirl because Babs had been fridged and she was hated by Cass' creator. Yet still, Babs IS the iconic Batgirl, which is because DC took advantage of the reboot to give her cowl back. Let's be honest, Cassandra wasn't even Batgirl when the reboot hit. Cass needs her own codename and legacy instead of Babs'.<br /><br />I wish no ill to those substitutes, but I'm not interested in a DCU where Supergirl and Batgirl aren't Kara Zor-El and Barbara Gordon. They ARE the iconic mantle-bearers who were stripped from their legacies and roles by extremely misogynist storylines.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-5331115587969221842016-01-25T21:05:06.444-05:002016-01-25T21:05:06.444-05:00Thanks everyone for the comments.
I suppose in so...Thanks everyone for the comments.<br /><br />I suppose in some ways I am glad this isn't a line wide reboot as it would be like throwing the baby out with the bath water.<br /><br />They need to rethink their primary characters and bring them back to the things that made them popular in the first place. and they need to mend some bridges with creators to bring them back to the DCU.<br /><br />I'm interested to see what it all means.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-85963281352008484152016-01-25T15:56:30.492-05:002016-01-25T15:56:30.492-05:00This isn't a reboot. Just a relaunch. In pop...This isn't a reboot. Just a relaunch. In popular parlance terms, the difference being that they're just putting a bunch of new #1s on books set in the same verse, really. Its still the New 52 verse. There will be something involved to justify it in story, perhaps via Darkseid War or something, and there will probably be various alterations here and there to fix things, but by and large its the same verse. For older fans, think Zero Hour.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-28452534803143198042016-01-25T12:40:45.613-05:002016-01-25T12:40:45.613-05:00I wonder how many floppies are envisioned by this ...I wonder how many floppies are envisioned by this reboot?<br /><br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-73690392412079782392016-01-25T12:17:33.601-05:002016-01-25T12:17:33.601-05:00The wiki link did not survive.
We'll try agai...The wiki link did not survive.<br /><br />We'll try again:<br /><br />https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_assets_owned_by_Time_Warner<br /><br />garybhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02637500979727068557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-14799305992128078392016-01-25T12:14:00.825-05:002016-01-25T12:14:00.825-05:00Louis, I read somewhere is that that the upcoming ...Louis, I read somewhere is that that the upcoming reboot, er, rebirth is driven from WB who has given the DC division orders to get their act together. <br /><br />DC, as a "comics" company, is a really small part of the WB hegemony, but their IP has become enormously important in their TV production unit, CW unit, and theatrical units. They are counting a lot on BvS to fill the hole left by Harry Potter. <br /><br />I had thought that as long as DC was breaking even, the suits would leave them alone. So, especially after the moving expenses this year, perhaps DC isn't even break even? <br /><br />Unfortunately, I don't expect that the current management team at DC is capable of fixing it. <br /><br />List_of_assets_owned_by_Time_Warner<br />garybhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02637500979727068557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-87892319644621263982016-01-25T11:00:24.610-05:002016-01-25T11:00:24.610-05:00I couldn't agree more with Martin. I'm one...I couldn't agree more with Martin. I'm one of those who thinks that without a meaningful real life change in management no amount of fictional changes will solve the problem.<br /><br />In my opinion the problem wasn't the New 52 reboot but how they handled it. A lot of the rationale in the interviews leading up to the post Flashpoint world telegraphed what since happened. <br /><br />The publishers were making a lot alarming comments surrounding Superman and how they felt he was tied down in his universe, not just by Lois but even the Daily Planet world and Clark Kent. <br /><br />Those interviews showed to me a fundamental disconnect between the people in power and their intellectual property. I don't believe the current management understands the strengths these characters bring. I think they've been trying to make everybody "Batman lite" if you will. <br /><br />Batman sells but that doesn't mean Superman or Wonder Woman need to be like Batman to sell. They needed to write compelling stories and assign people who understood the characters to the books. However, that is just the first hurdle. They needed not to meddle to the level they did.<br /><br />So many things were clearly editorially driven. <br /><br />I digress. Here we are. <br /><br />I wasn't a fan of the reboot post crisis and I argued against it on Usenet when I was 21. 30 years later? I can't see how a relaunch/rebirth/reboot, whatever this thing ends up being, can make things any worse. <br /><br />I just really hope upper management changes and the company is steered by people who understand their own IP. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-29064148769953169252016-01-25T10:17:40.737-05:002016-01-25T10:17:40.737-05:00What I find most ironic is if you look at somethin...What I find most ironic is if you look at something Didio said in a CBR interview in July 2015, <br /><br />"Our goal is never to be in a position where we are restarting, relaunching a line, ever again. Quite the opposite. What we really want to do is build on what we created from the launch of New 52, take what existed beforehand, integrate that in, to give us the best interpretations of the characters that organically move forward, and are all part of one big continuity, that is DC Comics."<br /><br />Took less than a year for Didio to go back on his word if Rebirth turns out to be another reboot. This just shows DC's failed indecision to make up their minds and do right by the DCU and their characters and their fans.<br /><br />LouisAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-47455175149866471762016-01-25T09:08:30.693-05:002016-01-25T09:08:30.693-05:00You know I try to be optimistic, but I can't d...You know I try to be optimistic, but I can't deny that without change at the top - or at least a massive change of attitude in the people at the top - we're likely in for another bumpy ride. As with Batman and GL in previous reboots, though, I expect Harley and Batgirl would be safe.Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-59988228130232198532016-01-25T08:55:38.904-05:002016-01-25T08:55:38.904-05:00I just want the pre-Flashpoint DCU back. I want Ti...I just want the pre-Flashpoint DCU back. I want Titans who are childhood friends and Titans who are parents. I want Linda Danvers and Matrix and a Cass Cain who used to call herself Batgirl and a Donna Troy that didn't slaughter a bunch of men because they were men. I want a Legion whose Sun Boy didn't have his head destroyed and a Star Boy that got unceremoniously crushed to death. Hell, I want Wally West's family back and a universe where no one tried to actually pair up Arthur Light and Kimiyo Hoshi. WHO HONESTLY THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA?Jude Delucahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07192366186748612752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-89604713325795999702016-01-25T08:49:20.268-05:002016-01-25T08:49:20.268-05:00If DC are starting all over again, will they take ...If DC are starting all over again, will they take the opportunity to make more of their comics available in digital form only? Paper comics may soon be a thing of the past.John (Somewhere in England)noreply@blogger.com