tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post7747137870694335008..comments2024-03-18T13:07:22.190-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Supergirl Episode 212: LuthorsAnjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-1502727093046389792017-02-20T18:13:24.048-05:002017-02-20T18:13:24.048-05:00I do agree that Kara having to be saved so much by...I do agree that Kara having to be saved so much by the likes of J'onn is annoying but the only way around that is to write them out - I get more annoyed when Kara is in some apocalyptic scenario and J'onn is hanging back being useless. And yes, Kara really needs to think more, use the time between skirmishes to make strategy rather than mope around with whomever she's estranged from this week. <br /><br />I liked Lena with the chess piece and fear Scrimmage is spot on; I really hope not, I like her and Kara as alleged friends (they need to meet outside the office or courtroom before I could really consider them pals). But how patronising was the flashback at that point, as if we viewers were too think to remember a chess came from half an hour earlier. <br /><br />I miss Lucy. And is Winn EVER going took finish Mon El's costume?Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-892687497348844022017-02-18T06:41:09.135-05:002017-02-18T06:41:09.135-05:00"Anonymous said...
Super girl was my 10 year ..."Anonymous said...<br />Super girl was my 10 year old daughter favorite show and myself also but since they have decided to turn a super hero show into a lesbian show had to stop watching it and can't allow my daughter to watch what a shame the show went in that direction<br /><br />February 17, 2017 at 11:08 PM"<br /><br />Uh, do you belong to some puritan society, some radical Islamic group (as they kill homosexuals) or the ultra leftist and hateful Westboro Baptist Church or something?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-3494626036686517982017-02-17T23:08:40.153-05:002017-02-17T23:08:40.153-05:00Super girl was my 10 year old daughter favorite sh...Super girl was my 10 year old daughter favorite show and myself also but since they have decided to turn a super hero show into a lesbian show had to stop watching it and can't allow my daughter to watch what a shame the show went in that directionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-73234354370249470802017-02-16T12:40:21.181-05:002017-02-16T12:40:21.181-05:00Not much more to add... definitely the highlights ...Not much more to add... definitely the highlights were Lena and Vivan Luthor, and the whole "is she good, is she bad?" hanging<br />in the air. THAT to me is the most interesting thing watching Lena as a character; yes, she's proven she's not a Luthor, but<br />one can't help but wonder, especially with the whole chess motif scene at the end... what is the long game?<br /><br />Another bit I loved were all the callbacks to previous episodes -- J'onn mentioning about M'gann's departure, the references to <br />all the Kryptonite in Superman's possession, the antikryptonite suit-- THAT to me is an important part of world / arc building.<br /><br /><br />RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-20207479250466611432017-02-15T22:58:55.050-05:002017-02-15T22:58:55.050-05:00"Guess I'll have to disagree on that. Mon..."Guess I'll have to disagree on that. Mon-El's ethics and views on morality are still being shaped by Kara and her friends. Ball's still being kicked around, and next, it's Mxyzptlk's turn to play."<br /><br />You know, I keep forgetting about Mon-El! I guess addressing such matters could still work then. I stand corrected. :)Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807259990722204859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-24542160560219967482017-02-15T22:50:00.504-05:002017-02-15T22:50:00.504-05:00"Too many incidents have passed for it to bec..."Too many incidents have passed for it to become an issue now. They'd be opening a can or worms best left closed."<br /><br />Guess I'll have to disagree on that. Mon-El's ethics and views on morality are still being shaped by Kara and her friends. Ball's still being kicked around, and next, it's Mxyzptlk's turn to play. <br /><br />KETKEThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13797904604074311480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-959400001720660882017-02-15T22:34:41.995-05:002017-02-15T22:34:41.995-05:00I only mentioned it as a side note. But me being m...I only mentioned it as a side note. But me being me and thinking too deeply about things, I feel that although it would be interesting if the show were to address the differences in morality/Kill or be killed philosophies between Kara, J'onn and Alex etc, at the same time it would also highlight that Supergirl (at this stage in the show) would be a hypocrite for defending her "no kill" rule. <br /><br />The time to address such things has passed (personal opinion). Like in the first season, Kara praised Alex for taking down a Hellgrammite all by herself... yeah because Alex killed him. This, again, is just an example of where Kara should've had a problem because her sisters actions conflicted with Kara's philosophy (back then it did anyway). Too many incidents have passed for it to become an issue now. They'd be opening a can or worms best left closed.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807259990722204859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-71608446886060555972017-02-15T22:30:21.472-05:002017-02-15T22:30:21.472-05:00Well, Lena fondling that chess piece made me ponde...Well, Lena fondling that chess piece made me ponder if Checkmate was being very softly ushered into the show... :) <br /><br /><br />KETKEThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13797904604074311480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-62935472248688778502017-02-15T22:26:14.060-05:002017-02-15T22:26:14.060-05:00It's really getting old watching Supergirl, th...It's really getting old watching Supergirl, the titular star of the show, who is supposed to be "The Most "Powerful Woman on Earth," not to mention the "Personification of the American Way," having to be saved EVERY episode after getting her butt kicked by villains who shouldn't be anywhere CLOSE to her power levels. Yes, I know being close to Metallo weakens Supergirl (which is why they should've sent J'Onn after him in the FIRST place), but that's no excuse for Kara allowing him to get his hands on her. Where's her super-speed, her freezing breath, her BRAINS? Right off the top of my head, I can think of about a dozen ways she could've incapacitated Metallo from a distance, even if he WAS about to blow up, but NOOOOOOO!<br /><br />I'm also done with the whole “James/Guardian” subplot. His confrontation with Metallo this episode was the perfect illustration of how useless he is going against a super-powered opponent. I was actually rooting for Metallo to put an end to this nonsense by crushing James' skull inside his Robocop helmet, which he could've easily done if he thought that “Guardian” was anything other than an annoying nuisance. Kara is absolutely right to discourage James' suicidal attempt to play in the Big Leagues. He's better off busting muggers and jewel thieves, and leaving the “super hero-ing” to someone more qualified and better equipped for the job.<br /><br />I wonder what prompted TPTB to have Miss Tessmacher drop that little nugget about being a graduate of Yale? They must've got some feminist backlash over portraying her as a sex object/blonde bimbo after her infamous pantsless scene with Mon-El in the copy room.<br /><br />Speaking of smart women...<br /><br />My take on the Lena Luthor scene at the end was that they were showing us that Lena has a keen, strategic mind that might even surpass her brother, Lex's, and that everything that's supposedly happened TO her has actually been the result of her genius manipulations. By working the “long con,” she's not only been playing Supergirl/Kara for a fool, but her mother as well. Let's face it, with Lillian on the show, they haven't needed Lena to play the villain so far, but now that Mama Luthor's out of the picture, it might be time for Lena to take the next step in her sure-to-be nefarious plan. I'm looking forward to it, mainly because “nice Lena” is BORING!<br /><br /><br /><br />Scrimmagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-63557886789361753592017-02-15T22:09:31.793-05:002017-02-15T22:09:31.793-05:00Yeah a breech in the super sisterhood would be int...Yeah a breech in the super sisterhood would be interesting, on the other hand only Supergirl can win that argument unless Alex moves over to "Legends of Tomorrow" and Lena moves into Kara's building as the new Superbuddy.<br />:)<br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-9960150091266348862017-02-15T19:44:11.960-05:002017-02-15T19:44:11.960-05:00"I seem to recall bringing up the fact that S..."I seem to recall bringing up the fact that Supergirl was dependent at various times on her sister's willingness to kill, early last season. They should work that thesis into the show simply because its good drama, but I doubt they'll go thru with it since following the idea thru to it means Alex would have to get a job at the Public Library or Dairy Queen or something."<br /><br />Oh, I dunno...could make for a pretty compelling season-ender if Alex and Kara's sister-bonding took a powder due to ethical and moral differences. Alien royalty seems to be possibly arriving on the National City horizon... :) <br /><br />KETKEThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13797904604074311480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-73294457682863720052017-02-15T18:58:08.510-05:002017-02-15T18:58:08.510-05:00I seem to recall bringing up the fact that Supergi...I seem to recall bringing up the fact that Supergirl was dependent at various times on her sister's willingness to kill, early last season. They should work that thesis into the show simply because its good drama, but I doubt they'll go thru with it since following the idea thru to it means Alex would have to get a job at the Public Library or Dairy Queen or something.<br />Good call on that phantom zone projector Anj....you might be right.<br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-48888980493988392282017-02-15T17:28:06.192-05:002017-02-15T17:28:06.192-05:00Hi, KET. Yes I think you’re right that, for Alex a...Hi, KET. Yes I think you’re right that, for Alex and J’onn, “kill or be killed” may be the SOP. I remember an episode from the first season (I forget which one(s)) where it said that Alex is a soldier, trained to do whatever is necessary (or something along those lines); and when J'onn took the blame for killing Astra, implying that he, too, believes in the "kill or be killed" philosophy. It will be good if the show were to eventually examine the contrast of philosophies between its characters.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807259990722204859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-36130854224721814652017-02-15T16:55:05.582-05:002017-02-15T16:55:05.582-05:00"Also, and this is purely just as a side note..."Also, and this is purely just as a side note, one thing that has never arisen between Kara and Alex is that with Kara so against killing (supposedly), surely Alex killing so often would/should bother her. Yet Supergirl chose to work with her and the DEO, an organization that is willing to kill. It’s like a vegan working for a slaughterhouse; it never made much sense to me. There is still a lot of killing going on in Supergirl’s presence; I really don’t think Supergirl should be tolerating that. It will be interesting to see if the comics ever bring it up. Maybe I read too much into things!"<br /><br />Actually, it's an ongoing action throughout the series that I suspect may be eventually examined at some point in the series. However, the body count whenever the DEO or civilians tangle with some of Supergirl's super-foes must be pretty high at times. "Kill or be killed" might be the SOP for such encounters, as far as J'onn and Alex are concerned. <br /><br />KETKEThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13797904604074311480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-70517270571588604232017-02-15T14:48:07.142-05:002017-02-15T14:48:07.142-05:00Hi, Anj. Okay, I haven’t watched any of the second...Hi, Anj. Okay, I haven’t watched any of the second half of this season but it’s hard to avoid spoilers when I know many people who watch it (So I am totally fine with, and accept, spoilers). <br /><br />I know people may be getting pretty sick of my comments seemingly bashing this show, but I can assure you that I am not an antagonist by nature. By asking seemingly antagonistic questions, I seek merely to understand better and, hopefully, to learn.<br /><br />So, in that spirit I just need to ask this… You said you were glad of Metallo’s reappearance, because it means Alex didn’t stone kill him earlier in the season… Surely, you meant to say Alex AND Supergirl? Supergirl did hold Metallo vulnerable and give Alex the cue to kill him. If I held a person down so that they couldn’t move and tell someone else to shoot him or her in the head, am I innocent? Of course not, I’d be equally guilty of causing that person’s death. And (just like Parasite’s return in an upcoming episode) just because Metallo is alive doesn’t clear Supergirl and Alex of their ‘intentions’ to kill him earlier in the season. <br /><br />‘Let me help you,’ says Supergirl to Metallo in this episode. Just where was that compassion for his life at the conclusion of their first encounter?<br /><br />Also, and this is purely just as a side note, one thing that has never arisen between Kara and Alex is that with Kara so against killing (supposedly), surely Alex killing so often would/should bother her. Yet Supergirl chose to work with her and the DEO, an organization that is willing to kill. It’s like a vegan working for a slaughterhouse; it never made much sense to me. There is still a lot of killing going on in Supergirl’s presence; I really don’t think Supergirl should be tolerating that. It will be interesting to see if the comics ever bring it up. Maybe I read too much into things!<br /><br />Once again, though, all respect.<br />Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10807259990722204859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-73676833632012931012017-02-15T13:00:04.530-05:002017-02-15T13:00:04.530-05:00Thanks for comments.
I thought it was the White K...Thanks for comments.<br /><br />I thought it was the White Knight she was holding at the end. As if she is debating being a good guy or not. <br /><br />And the Lex device - after thinking. I bet it's a Phantom Zone projector, thus sealing Mon-Els eventual fate.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-260899492058760332017-02-15T12:45:40.357-05:002017-02-15T12:45:40.357-05:00Technical point actor David Harewood playing two c...Technical point actor David Harewood playing two completely different parts rescued two different women in the climax of this episode, Lillian Luthor and Supergirl. Yeah big megadittoes with our host, MM "Saving the Day" was a huge problem for me in this ep, Supergirl needs to get thru more of these confrontations without being coached by Alex, or rescued by the DEO/MM or the Petticoat Junction Volunteer Fire Department.<br />Not sure where the Lena Luthor thing is going, I'd be nice if Kara was definitely able to drag her over to the "lightside of the force" because it does make such a contrast with Superman's deadly feud with Lex. For me this is the standout subplot of the season and is indeed because Katie McGrath is bringing some Calista Flockhart style joy to the role.<br />Not sure what could be in that box? I'm assuming its something on the order of an Easter Egg...Gold Kryptonite? (Doubt its in continuity and likely unnecessary given other similar devices out there)....Maybe Lex hacked a Mother Box before being sent up the river? An operational fragment of Brainiac's Neural Net? The mind boggles....<br />JLGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-40822269682866911582017-02-15T08:48:07.324-05:002017-02-15T08:48:07.324-05:00And we're again reminded of why Lex Luthor is ...And we're again reminded of why Lex Luthor is THE quintessential comic-book villain since 1940. Do you need to introduce mind-screwing tension and drama? Bring in Lex, his screwed family and their conflicts with the House of El.<br /><br />Supergirl lifting a crane is a fantastic scene, but I didn't care for MM saving her either. She doesn't need to save the day every time but she doesn't need to be constantly rescued and helped either.<br /><br />Lena's last scene is fascinating. Who is she seeing as she fingers that White Queen? Supergirl? Or herself? She thinks of herself as a good person who is playing a complex and dangerous game of chess? Against whom?<br /><br />Katie McGrath must be commended. She plays so well her character that, even though she has done nothing but helping the "good guys", people still wonders whether she is good or bad.<br /><br />Well, I'll tell it again: I want Lena to be good. Superman cannot save Lex from himself. But Supergirl can save her friend.<br /><br />Supergirl and Lena had a very complicated friendship in the Pre-Crisis and Cosmic Adventures universes, and I'm happy to see it here.<br /><br />And Mr. Mxyzptlk finally turns up. This is going to be good. And when I say "good", I mean "annoying". Poor Kara. You have no idea what's coming to you. Hang in there!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com