tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post5648241466803002717..comments2024-03-28T20:51:56.173-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Review: Superboy #12Anjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-47484579880092505952012-08-12T21:18:45.654-04:002012-08-12T21:18:45.654-04:00That early Kara was just nasty and dumb, where Sup...<i>That early Kara was just nasty and dumb, where Superboy seems a lot more likeable here.</i><br /><br />I agree that this was a much more likeable Superboy. That nasty Kara feel was much more prevalent last issue. <br /><br />I do think was way better and a step in the right direction. Hopefully the trend continues.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-85288885811932144802012-08-12T21:17:27.035-04:002012-08-12T21:17:27.035-04:00i think this issue was defalcos best issue,writing...<i>i think this issue was defalcos best issue,writingwise,than any of his other scripted only issues by far.</i><br /><br />Agreed!Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-90703451741384529512012-08-12T18:49:45.410-04:002012-08-12T18:49:45.410-04:00Great review. even though we disagree on some poin...Great review. even though we disagree on some points - I loved this issue, it felt so much more positive than last month's. And while I see the similarities with early issues of Lolita Belly Supergirl, I didn't feel them as I was writing. That early Kara was just nasty and dumb, where Superboy seems a lot more likeable here.<br /><br />I disagree that Superboy's new not-yet-friends are presented as self-absorbed. OK, Fifth loves to play with his smartphone but as for the rest, they seem to be well socialised.<br /><br />I wonder if Dallas hadn't lost her key at all, but was seeking sanctuary from Kiva and her goons.Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-54982917794751357032012-08-12T09:14:41.090-04:002012-08-12T09:14:41.090-04:00i think she will get him up to speed on being a he...i think she will get him up to speed on being a hero,or being taken down,which is cool.<br /><br />i think his emotional range is exactly where someone who has no experience dealing with anything,oh and being alive would be at.<br /><br />i think this issue was defalcos best issue,writingwise,than any of his other scripted only issues by far.tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16487241241676398689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-82467892857803252822012-08-12T06:20:41.114-04:002012-08-12T06:20:41.114-04:00Thanks for the discussion and posts.
I thought th...Thanks for the discussion and posts.<br /><br />I thought that the feel of this issue was much better than last issue. <br /><br />His emotional range is an interesting topic. We have seen him sort of swoon around Wonder Girl, feel loyal to Red, and get angry. But I think these responses are sort of in an early adolescent stage.<br /><br />I wonder if Detective Lure will be the one to try to get him 'up to speed' on being human.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-79667674889609036642012-08-11T04:20:39.588-04:002012-08-11T04:20:39.588-04:00Ok i picture SB like Data from star trek,new to ev...<i>Ok i picture SB like Data from star trek,new to everything,and even sayijg things that others think are jokes,but its just him being honest.if you watched the star trek show you should notice this SB and Data are very similar</i><br /><br />Yes they are similar, the differences are that Data is purely part of an ensemble cast and the medium is television.<br />Superboy at the moment works fine as a Titans member but not as well in his solo book, a reader needs more than this thin and dull persona to keep them interested in a book longterm.<br />Superboy is odd as he lacks <b>any</b> emotional range. There's no humor in him, no sadness, and barely even any anger. He is the antithesis of the 90s Kon-el, simple though <i>he</i> was too in many ways, and I'm not seeing any easy way of turning this characterisation around at the moment. He's become sort of set in stone already, any change in him is going to take quite awhile to do, I don't know as he'll have that long...Dave Mullenhttp://www.comicboards.com/superman/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-10974743123495822442012-08-10T22:33:23.805-04:002012-08-10T22:33:23.805-04:00Ok i picture SB like Data from star trek,new to ev...Ok i picture SB like Data from star trek,new to everything,and even sayijg things that others think are jokes,but its just him being honest.if you watched the star trek show you should notice this SB and Data are very similar.now his tastes in clothing,and lifestyle seems right to come from lex ,even his intelligent thouht and speakijng seems to come from him.<br /><br />Also his TK ismt just TK,its "tactile" TK,and its meaning is a lil.different now.it means anythijg his TK can touch he can scan,which means see,learn,and react from.that "spider senses",and the chemical breakdown in his drink while.holding it,is only a few things this "tactile" sensory ability can do,but its at present limited to things he is in physical contact with,if KIVA was floating,he wouldnt have seen her any better than any normal human would have.<br /><br />I thought his night club buddies and kiva were more throway than anything,these were the weak points in this issue for me,while his characterization,voice,and power usage was the highpoints of it.tonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16487241241676398689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-56490791447135825102012-08-10T13:08:36.434-04:002012-08-10T13:08:36.434-04:00I agree the with the review Anj, I skimmed thru th...I agree the with the review Anj, I skimmed thru this book on the way home today so will have to sit down and give it a proper read, but the lack of a clear purpose for the character is probobly the biggest problem driving it.<br />Why is he here? Why is he wearing an S-shield? Why is there no connection to Superman as yet? There's no end of questions that come with this book but the characters actual purpose in life is the biggest one of all...<br /><br />In Tom DeFalco's defence he was shoehorned into this book and inherited this situation, I think he's done a commendable job taking <i>Legion Lost</i> and making it interesting and lively so can't be too harsh on his Superboy as yet as we all know how much baggage and ploitics a Superman book comes with these days.<br />I honestly think the crux of the problem with Superboy is that like a lot of the reboots last September not a lot of thought was put into it as a concept and ongoing storyline and the premise was flawed anyway. I count Legion Lost, Red Lanterns, Deathstroke, Hawkman and Stormwatch with this problem as well as all of these are/were very flawed ideas for books.<br />So DeFalco is wrestling with all this as well as trying to figure out what tone the book should have, and even that's only if editorial let him! DeFalco's typical style is well tailored for writing teens like this, he would have been a fine choice for the 90s Superboy for example, but this current Kon-el is nothing <b>like</b> that fun loving scallywag so again there is a conceptual problem, this Kon-el is locked into a quite dull and humorless characterisation which is so ingrained I suspect he will only work as the butt of other peoples jokes... he's a lot like Mr Spock in fact....Dave Mullenhttp://www.comicboards.com/superman/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-83789942212517410892012-08-10T08:25:23.324-04:002012-08-10T08:25:23.324-04:00Let's not forget that Supergirl was the one wh...Let's not forget that Supergirl was the one who was attacked in issues #1 and 2 under Loeb. Let's not forget that Supergirl kept trying to avoid the fight in issue #1 and was even ready to forgive Power Girl and Power Girl still acted horribly to her. Let's not forget that the JSA recognized Power Girl was in the wrong and had not been herself.<br /><br />We must also remember that Supergirl had many battles with heroes during Gates' run. The battles under Gates' run happened when Supergirl was supposed to be established and everyone knew what she was about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com