tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post2385880268886196729..comments2024-03-28T20:51:56.173-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Supergirl Episode 312:For GoodAnjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-90682813804343681742019-04-07T06:50:18.953-04:002019-04-07T06:50:18.953-04:00I just started watching Supergirl series last Thur...I just started watching Supergirl series last Thursday. I have just finished the first two seasons and reached s3e12. Never seen a consistent blog like this. Happy to see. :)Curatorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02017307860489476110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-61385305055839414302018-02-02T12:34:56.439-05:002018-02-02T12:34:56.439-05:00Knowing Lillian she could have well have poisoned ...Knowing Lillian she could have well have poisoned Lena to push her daughter into full "Anakin" mode...since its easier and less time consuming than cloning a more evil version of Lena...:)<br />I am sure Lillian has this option on the back burner as well <br />:)<br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-60688679511212398262018-02-02T08:12:01.627-05:002018-02-02T08:12:01.627-05:00Thanks as usual for all the great comments. A coup...Thanks as usual for all the great comments. A couple more thoughts.<br /><br />1) I wouldn't be surprised if Lena dons the Lex armor in the last big battle. I wouldn't be surprised if she quits CatCo to go back to LCorp when whatever happens to Sam happens. And I wouldn't be surprised if we get a cliffhanger where we don't know which way she will turn.<br /><br />The idea of her heading up Checkmate is brilliant.<br /><br />2) Who is the third worldkiller? Kara herself? Perhaps that is why she is getting visions?<br /><br />Would it be bananas if it was Ruby?<br /><br />3) The idea of Lillian poisoning Lena so Lena would be spurred to the dark side crossed my mind as well. But Lena came so close to death, I doubt even Lillian would take that chance. Especially if she returned so she could reconcile with her daughter. That whole side plot confused me.<br /><br />4) Hope Edge comes back. That certainly could be considered a coerced confession.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-57479950690144696522018-02-01T23:15:59.624-05:002018-02-01T23:15:59.624-05:00I didn't care for the fact that once again, it...I didn't care for the fact that once again, it wasn't Supergirl who saved the day in the end, but her supporting cast – in this case Mon-El with a technical assist from Winn - whose timely intervention not only defeated the bad guy – or gal, the Lex-suited Lilian – but he also saved SUPERGIRL, like she was some helpless Damsel In Distress. I'm surprised she didn't bat her eyelashes at him, and coo “My Hero!” Men may be – in Livewire's words - “The Lesser Sex,” but this is two weeks in a row now that the boys have saved the girls' bacon. How chauvinistic of them!<br /><br /><br />Like Winn, I thought it was cool to see the Luthor Battle Armor in action, and I'm sure that it will solve the DEO's lack of kryptonite problem, even though they know its effect on Reign is minimal, but I was very disappointed that Supergirl – the Star of the show - couldn't even manage to get in more than a couple of shots, much less defeat a mere human woman in a tin suit, kryptonite switchblade or NO. The most “heroic” thing Kara did in the whole episode was fly Lena to the DEO, and freeze her with her Super-breath. <br /><br />And yes, she could've AT LEAST taken off her glasses while she was flying with Lena. That's “Super Hero 101: Protect your Secret Identity at all costs!” but ESPECIALLY in front of a Luthor.<br /><br />I usually enjoy seeing Kara, or Clark Kent, secretly using their superpowers in their civilian identities, but Kara was WAY out of line assaulting that security guard who was only doing his job. She could've easily walked away, and used her super speed to get past security, but instead, she had to make a “politically correct” point that missed the mark completely! On a practical note, her little stunt with the guard was bound to have been caught on the security video. How is Kara Danvers going to explain THAT?<br /><br />Speaking of blowing your Secret Identity...<br /><br />Morgan Edge is no fool. How long do you think it will take for him to ask himself why a six-foot four, athletic, muscular black man / street vigilante would be so concerned about the well-being of a mega-wealthy corporate icon like Lena Luthor? Why would “Guardian” seem to be so personally invested in keeping Lena safe? How long before Edge puts two-and-two together and comes up with “Guardian = Lena's new boyfriend = Superman's pal, Jimmy Olsen?” Frankly, I thought the whole Guardian subplot could've been dropped to give the rest of the episode more room to breathe. As it was, it felt rather cramped.<br /><br />I liked seeing Alex in doctor mode. Of course, anything's preferable to her usual “pity party / pass the wine bottle” moods of recent episodes. Now that Dr Alex has eliminated any PHYSIOLOGICAL reasons for Sam's “blackouts” and her episodes of “lost time,” I wonder if anyone will dare to state the obvious... that Sam is displaying all the classic signs of Alien Abduction Syndrome, which is really not all that far from the truth. The only difference is, she was experimented on by aliens a long time ago, and by now she's probably more alien than she is human.Scrimmagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-35261926685831576742018-02-01T23:03:45.031-05:002018-02-01T23:03:45.031-05:00Excellent review, Anj. I agree with every point y...Excellent review, Anj. I agree with every point you made, and then some, as well as with the gist of every other comment I've read so far. For once, I think we all saw the same episode, which has already been accurately described as “filler,” “clunky,” and “a bit of a let down.” I would also add disjointed, and overwritten. There was a LOT going on, probably TOO much squeezed into one episode, and some of it wasn't resolved, at least not very clearly.<br /><br />Like Anj, when the sadly underused Morgan Edge denied poisoning Lena, saying it wasn't his style, I believed him, and I don't think it was fair for Kara to simply assume that Edge was guilty, simply because of the lack of any other obvious suspects. At that point, she wasn't even aware that Lilian was back in town, but she DID know that whoever really DID try to kill Edge, using a suicidal self-driving car (a not-so-subtle warning about the Robot Apocalypse?), was still out there, and could've been targeting Lena as well. <br /><br />Sherlock Holmes once said “Poison is a woman's weapon,” which is statistically true, and why I STILL think it's a good bet that Lilian poisoned her own daughter. If we know for a fact that Lilian used LexCorp Dissolving Bullets to kill the would-be assassin BEFORE he could be questioned, doesn't it stand to reason that she did it to cover up her own tracks? If she wasn't involved, how did she even know that Lena was poisoned? How was it that her drone "just happened to" be in a position to kill that guy. How did Lilian know why Jimmy was chasing him anyway? For all she supposedly knew, he could've been a pickpocket. Something stinks!<br /><br />The problem is, even though Lena coerced Edge into confessing, I'm not sure if he was confessing to this recent attempt on her life, or to the time he locked her in a pilot-less plane (I'm sensing a theme here) that was about to crash. I'm pretty sure he also copped to setting her up for the phony lead poisoning scam too, but that whole denouement was rushed, confusing, and poorly written.<br /><br />On the other hand, I also thought J'onn's “You're a Beacon of Hope” speech was VERY inspiring, and judging by the look on Kara's face at the end of it, she felt that way too. That may have been the most beautiful she's ever looked on the show... absolutely radiant... which is what you would expect from a Beacon!Scrimmagenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-70793551410318668362018-02-01T22:19:53.087-05:002018-02-01T22:19:53.087-05:00Lots of red herrings were bandied about in this ep...Lots of red herrings were bandied about in this episode, which may have frustrated some viewers, who may have been expecting real clues to the origins of the Worldkillers, or whether Lena Luthor can be completely trusted with intimate secrets. <br /><br />"The Lexsuit sold this ep for me, but alas they didn't give Supergirl triumphal closure over it and Lillian,on the other hand its grounds for a rematch..."<br /><br />....which I think is what this episode was setting up. However, who might be wearing it next remains a mystery, because I doubt that it will be Lillian next time it appears. I like how one of Kara's dialogue bits includes knowledge that Lena is a chess master, which hearkens back to last season's "Luthors" episode, and a long shot suspicion that agency with Checkmate might still be a possible outcome. <br /><br />"If only one word can describe this episode...FILLER."<br /><br />Nope....just a lot of deliberate misdirection, such as the MRI and Guardian scenes. In the beginning, there seemed to be some sort of psychic link being established between Kara and the Worldkillers....like some vision from the book of Revelation. Then the idea's conveniently dropped with the Sam/Alex MRI sequences (which some viewers online are already speculatively shipping in place of Sanvers)....then the vision returns when Kara recognizes one of the possible suspects as another Worldkiller (BTW, one of the suspects is an actual Marvel publicist, so unforeseen inter-company crossover!). <br /><br />So....no trace of anything fishy going on with Sam's missing amount of time? Well, she fits right in with Kara herself, who monologues at the beginning of nearly every episode of Supergirl how she slept through a substantial amount of time while trapped in the Phantom Zone. To this date, what actually happened during that amount of time spent asleep has yet to be revealed.... :) <br /><br />Seems to me that much of this episode was spent in lining up supporting players behind a trio of powerful females whose friendship will likely be torn apart once the trio's hidden secrets are finally revealed. And it seems like Lena might already know Kara's secret, and pretended that it was merely a dream she had.<br /><br />KET<br /><br />KEThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13797904604074311480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-40627734103791855442018-02-01T19:16:56.585-05:002018-02-01T19:16:56.585-05:00The Lexsuit sold this ep for me, but alas they did...The Lexsuit sold this ep for me, but alas they didn't give Supergirl triumphal closure over it and Lillian,on the other hand its grounds for a rematch as is also the case with the Reverse Flash from da crossover.<br />I'm pretty sold on the notion that Lena's descent into "Full Luthor" is gonna be a slow one over time with Lillian chewing away at her virtue incrementally....I['d prefer that Lena "stay good" but this is US TV and the storytelling possibilities are too tempting.<br />If stopping Reign requires Supergirl to re-embrace her humanity, then Reign's own arc requires a blood sacrifice to beat her...and that comes down to either Sam or Ruby. My money is on Sam, although if it is Ruby that's gonna short circuit Alex's fitful path to surrogate motherhood...and ignite a show down over her alcoholism maybe...but the over-under favors Sam.<br /><br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-37660336166011882782018-02-01T17:36:09.169-05:002018-02-01T17:36:09.169-05:00If only one word can describe this episode...FILLE...If only one word can describe this episode...FILLER.<br /><br />I hate Morgan Edge as much as I do Black Siren or Damien Dahrk. Do appreciate Mr. Padner playing him though it's is a weapon of the leftist writers against Conservatives and Libertarians and those who believe in American sovereignty.<br /><br />And that scene where Kara kicks that bulk of a security man was uncalled for...weaponized hyper-feminism!<br /><br />"Meanwhile Alex is working up Sam, trying to diagnose why Sam is blacking out. Using the LCorp labs, Alex gets an MRI and sends off blood work. She even makes a funny comment about having a medical job in Seattle, a sneaky Grey's anatomy joke."<br /><br />To me that was my favorite scene...showed the other side of Alex Danvers...physician, scientist (oops wrong comic company!). I must admit it was scary for Sam to undergo the MRI, but Alex's bedside manner made things work out...lollipop and all...can't resist a little junk food here and there.<br /><br />"I was surprised to see that Alex is able to draw blood. It means that somehow Sam morphs into Reign to gain the powers she has. If not, the needle should just break off. That makes me think that she is two entities, perhaps setting up some sort of split is imminent in the ending?"<br /><br />(SNIFF) Hmmm...I smell black kryptonite somewhere.<br /><br />And I might be in the majority feeling sorry for Sam and wanting her side to win in this major war of attrition Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-4750004133192249812018-02-01T14:18:53.416-05:002018-02-01T14:18:53.416-05:00I don't think Man of Steel is meant to be in-c...I don't think Man of Steel is meant to be in-continuity. Superman has killed Zod several times (In "The Supergirl Saga" and arguably Superman II), so it may be he also killed him in this universe. I'm not okay with it, but there's a precedent, sadly.<br /><br />Decent episode but I agree. Not so good as the prior ones. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-48215717233090087572018-02-01T11:38:37.183-05:002018-02-01T11:38:37.183-05:00Hey Anj. Hope you got your batteries recharged fu...Hey Anj. Hope you got your batteries recharged fully yesterday :) In any case, an enjoyable episode overall, the less<br />said about the plot holes and "breakage of the suspension of disbelief meter," the better. Kudos to Lena and Lillian...<br />I swear, all Lillian's Come To The Dark Side, My Dear(TM) speech lacked was an offer of milk and cookies! BRILLIANTLY<br />SOLD! The Lex suit at the end was just icing, whipped cream and cherries on top!<br /><br />I also have to give kudos to the Alex/Sam/Kara/Lena scenes and the theme of togetherness and mutual support... pretty <br />sure this passes the Bechdel test -- not a praise or judgement, just an observation.<br /><br />Surprised you didn't note this, but Eve Tessmacher is back again(!)... and though she kinda got yelled at (again!), I have <br />to admit I love seeing her character onscreen as a nice sense of continuity at CatCo.<br /><br />> We then get the best scene in the episode.<br /><br />+9000 to this. Encapsulates everything I love about the Supers in one moment.<br /><br />I agree with you about the Guardian scenes and the ease how Edge and Lillian were taken down -- I guess I can roll with <br />the contrast of the Batman-ish dark side being needed to deal with people like Edge -- but like any other good villan,<br />I doubt these two will be down for long.<br /><br />I also wanted to put this out as I can't quite figure it out myself -- Mon-El was shown FLYING this episode! Now whether<br />that was due to the drone, the flight ring, or the writers have finally(!) figured out his power set... thoughts / comments?<br /><br />@previous Anon re timeline : agreed, but it sounds like one of those things you just have to chalk up to clunky writing, unfortunately.<br /><br /><br />RegardsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-62925440833328975092018-02-01T10:33:44.397-05:002018-02-01T10:33:44.397-05:00As always, the timelines are somewhat problematic....As always, the timelines are somewhat problematic. Sam says that she's been on her own since she was 16--presumably when she had Ruby. Then she did the single mom/work her way through college thing. Ruby is how old now? 13? This would make Sam 29. <br /><br />We know from the Supergirl storyline that Krypton exploded when Kara was 12, but that she was in the Phantom Zone for 24 years before she landed on Earth 38. 12 years passed before Season One. This would mean that Season Three Kara is chronologically in her 50s, though biologically she would be in her mid-to-late 20s.<br /><br />Unless Reign's pod was also knocked off course, the timeline doesn't work.<br /><br />I agree that it wasn't a great episode, but I thought it advanced the Lena Luthor storyline in an interesting way. I agree with Lillian: Lena isn't fulfilling her potential at CatCo, a company she bought to spite Morgan Edge. Having Lena return to L-Corp and focus on developing disruptive technology could provide for some interesting tensions between Lena's interest in the business applications and Kara's concern for the human implications. <br /><br />Great stuff with Alex, but I rolled my eyes at the thought of paramedics leaving a poison victim to recover on her own. <br /><br />My own interest is in Kara's dreams of Reign and the Worldkillers. I am not versed in all the Supergirl iterations, but I thought I'd read that in one version, Supergirl had some very limited psychic abilities. I could be very wrong here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-86783662757039244092018-02-01T09:18:47.763-05:002018-02-01T09:18:47.763-05:00I wasn't too excited about this episode, the s...I wasn't too excited about this episode, the start was snoreworthy. Morgan Edge however is always great and kept the pulse ticking. Then Lilian puts on the Lexosuit and I am finding myself squeeing with nerdhappiness. It really saved the episode. They should have let Kara handle this one though. Kara was powerless the last episode and she needed to be the heroine now. There was no reason for sending Mon-El to the rescue and there was no reason to resurrect Guardian to ruin James character even more by turning him into psycho-protective boyfriend. Both Kara and Lena can handle themselves. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com