tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post237697199541079049..comments2024-03-27T19:22:03.112-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Review: Supergirl #52Anjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-35656217146912192162010-04-28T14:45:12.173-04:002010-04-28T14:45:12.173-04:00I have thought things over where it concerns Super...I have thought things over where it concerns Supergirl. One thing did occur about her death is that it could be on the level of the Orion will one day slay his father, Darkseid Prophecy. Where it's predicted but never allowed to really happen. Even if Orion did slay his father, he won't remain dead too long. As he is too good of a villain to allow to remain dead forever. So this early "death" of Supergirl will be a dangling sword of Damocles with her even if she has small battles with the Anti-Monitor for several years to come.valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-64225492525866262932010-04-25T23:18:17.763-04:002010-04-25T23:18:17.763-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Loustiquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01766398267106237342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-13243119457184184272010-04-25T06:26:58.181-04:002010-04-25T06:26:58.181-04:00Jamal, I listened to your ustownhall interview seg...Jamal, I listened to your ustownhall interview segment tonight again, I admit somehow some of it got a bit twisted in my mind from the combination of time going by and memories fading a bit. You had merely mention keeping an eye on the Nightwing/ Flamebird story line and nothing else.<br /><br />After Kara's death by in CoIE and then the character actively messed with in trying to follow the "new" John Bryne model of Superman being the "only" Kryptonian exist. I admit I could be getting a touch paranoid about and for the character. Especially now that there is an excellent team working on her and giving her the proper treatment and story lines she deserves after several years of so-so stuff.<br /><br />I only "rediscover" Supergirl in the past 9 months and I have fallen in love again with the character. So I could be worried over nothing.<br /><br />I have noticed how seeds are now planted years in advance in the DC Comics story lines. If the Anti-Monitor is alive again and Supergirl is alive too. Isn't it only a matter of time before they have another pre-destined fight to the death again? I wasn't expecting it to happen in like 6 months or a year but eventually.valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-41801907657096981392010-04-25T04:51:39.807-04:002010-04-25T04:51:39.807-04:00Jamal: I'm just going to come out and ask you,...Jamal: I'm just going to come out and ask you, are DC so disapointed in sales for Supergirl since Kara's return to the main DCU proper in the pages of Superman/Batman since '04 that they intend on killing her off for good?TalOsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-40962457430141779912010-04-25T01:52:00.620-04:002010-04-25T01:52:00.620-04:00valerie21601: before this goes too far, what I sai...valerie21601: before this goes too far, what I said in that interview had nothing to do with any current plans for the book. It had everything to do with how much I disliked the book prior to coming onto Supergirl.Jamal Iglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12990294820100957411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-41061233753415566102010-04-24T22:33:37.233-04:002010-04-24T22:33:37.233-04:00It is a matter of wait and see now. After all whe...It is a matter of wait and see now. After all where it concerns Supergirl/Kara many of "us" fans have more than one reason to be a bit paranoid about what might be in her future.valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-28348273038921428212010-04-24T22:14:00.177-04:002010-04-24T22:14:00.177-04:00Yeah until I read this thread I thought, I JOHN FE...Yeah until I read this thread I thought, I JOHN FEER was the internet's most paranoid Supergirl fan. My distrust of DC was and IS legendary.<br />And I gotta come down on Anj's side on this, I think it was one stray line with no long term implications. I think Kara's fanbase is a lot more alert and organized now that the right Supergirl is back in continuity, it'd be hard to justify her death a second time around from a creative standpoint.<br />From a financial standpoint DC would be sacrificing a reasonably popular character who has done well in two TV series (animated and live action) and whose movie (though misbegotten) is still fondly remembered by persons inside and outside Supergirl fan-dom.<br />And what would they replace her with?<br />Power Girl, no offense but DC has been trying to gin up PG onto the A-List for twenty five years with entirely indifferent results. Right now her solo book will be lucky to last 25 issues.<br />Another genderbending glopdroid with a heart of gold some moody teenager who thinks she is an Angel all the disposable pseudo-Supergirls didn't quite take hold in the 80's & 90's is DC really gonna spin that wheel again?<br />I Think not.<br />Lets be vigilant, even a little paranoid but lets NOT give into delusions of persecution.<br />My two centavos<br /><br />John Feer<br /><br />PS great issue I love it when Kara has "had enough" and takes matters into her own dainty little hands...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-9870555154335768612010-04-24T20:22:01.462-04:002010-04-24T20:22:01.462-04:00Well, this 'when you died' comment has cer...Well, this 'when you died' comment has certainly struck a chord with Supergirl fans. I think we're still traumatized. LOL.<br /><br />I think we need to wait and see how it plays out a bit. I think Sterling Gates has built up some capital here. He has written the best Supergirl in some time. I am willing to wait to see what comes a bit more before I condemn.<br /><br />That said ... I'll be a bit upset if Supergirl gets killed off again. Especially when she seems to be at a sort of peak in popularity. I just can't see it happening ...Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-82245685848547472142010-04-24T19:25:01.536-04:002010-04-24T19:25:01.536-04:00Look at how many other superheros and villains die...Look at how many other superheros and villains died and came back time and time again and they keep trying out different versions of them and end up coming back to the original ones or original spirit of the character?<br /><br /><br />Superman<br />Flash<br />Green Lateran (Hal Jordan)<br />Wonder Woman-died (or de-evolved) at least once I can re-call<br /><br />Darkseid<br /><br />Brainiac <br /><br />Luthor<br /><br />I get the feeling DC Comics is messing with one of Murphy's Laws: If it's not broke DON'T fix it! <br /><br />I can't help but feel DC is going to try to fix/improve something that's going great and try to change it for the sake of change and big bucks.<br /><br />Like how Alan Moore said when he made Swamp Thing a MAJOR HIT for DC when the Higher Up's realized it was up there and make him write the stories they wanted him to write and how to handle the characters, story lines and so forth. It's legendary on how it ended for Alan Moore and DC Comics.<br /><br />Or maybe like your winning a race and suddenly someone pops up and pushes you out of the driver seat saying their taking over because you don't know what your doing and the interloper causes you to lose the race and then has the nerve to blame you for losing it too.valerie21601http://www.fanfiction.net/~valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-67534283696515168292010-04-24T18:05:27.931-04:002010-04-24T18:05:27.931-04:00Anj wrote:
"We had a year of Superman not be...Anj wrote:<br /><br />"We had a year of Superman not being in Superman books. Can a Supergirl book survive without Supergirl in it?"<br /><br />A year without a Supergirl? We already had that. It was 1987.<br /><br />Seriously, I highly doubt that Supergirl is going to die anytime soon because its already been done. You can only shoot J.R. Ewing once before that gimick gets old. <br /><br />I am guessing that we will see a story arc where Brainiac (out of love) rescues Supergirl from death at the risk of altering history. Or, Brainiac mistakes our Kara for an alternative reality or universe Kara that does die. With the DC Multiverse, who knows?Genenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-46573831174534726902010-04-24T15:42:04.472-04:002010-04-24T15:42:04.472-04:00http://www.ustownhall.com/USTH-RealStories-Igle02....http://www.ustownhall.com/USTH-RealStories-Igle02.html<br /><br />It's in part 2 of a 4 part interview of it. <br /><br />There was another 4 part Jamal Igle interview done two-three months later about Supergirl and other DC Comics stuff too.<br /><br />You will need an Windows Media Player version 7 or higher to listen to it. It takes several minutes to download.valerie21601http://www.fanfiction.net/~valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-70326424858958962152010-04-24T14:51:09.589-04:002010-04-24T14:51:09.589-04:00Jamal in his ustownhall internet interview did say...<i>Jamal in his ustownhall internet interview did say there were plans for Kara that he didn't approve of that were planned for Supergirl. But it sounds like he HAS to go along for it and being a team player he can't give away what it is. He did emphasize keeping our eye on Thara for reasons he couldn't go into.</i><br /><br />Do you have a link?<br /><br />That is a bit more worrisome. I don't want to see Thara (as much as I like the character) take on the mantle of Supergirl if Kara should 'die' or leave.<br /><br />We had a year of Superman not being in Superman books. Can a Supergirl book survive without Supergirl in it?Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-84720095102436502792010-04-24T14:49:37.384-04:002010-04-24T14:49:37.384-04:00this type of thinking shouldn't even enter you...<i>this type of thinking shouldn't even enter your mind and instead you ought to be thinking of ways to further IMPROVE on Supergirl in terms of her characterisation aswell as that of her stories being told and BUILDING this very Supergirl's legacy up and NOT tearing her down by wanting to kill her off! </i><br /><br />Well ... it was one line from Brainiac 5. So I hope it isn't a done deal or even a plan to kill Supergirl.<br /><br />I don't mind folks being worried ... but nothing has been set in stone.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-35714211219832604032010-04-24T14:46:55.472-04:002010-04-24T14:46:55.472-04:00It could be only a matter of time before Gates get...<i>It could be only a matter of time before Gates gets offered a carrot or two to climb up that corporate ladder too and leave it all behind. Which I hope will not happen.</i><br /><br />I was just talking about this with a friend yesterday. At what point will Sterling Gates get offered more 'plum' assignments and leave the book. <br /><br />I hope not for a long time. Peter David stayed with Supergirl for 80 issues.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-51684811470752730442010-04-24T10:57:35.973-04:002010-04-24T10:57:35.973-04:00Jamal in his ustownhall internet interview did say...Jamal in his ustownhall internet interview did say there were plans for Kara that he didn't approve of that were planned for Supergirl. But it sounds like he HAS to go along for it and being a team player he can't give away what it is. He did emphasize keeping our eye on Thara for reasons he couldn't go into.valerie21601http://www.fanfiction.net/~valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-61995151755237425632010-04-24T10:31:58.132-04:002010-04-24T10:31:58.132-04:00With all due respect, Anj, this is the very same D...With all due respect, Anj, this is the very same DC that had the audacity to resurrect THE original Golden Age Pre-COIE E-2 Superman (a.k.a. Kal-L/"Clark Kent") from Action Comics #1 along with his wife Lois in the form of Black Lantern Corp zombies only to then have them both end up being totally ahnilated during Blackest Night's mega event itself, so you honestly believe Kara is anymore safe then Kal-L? :-/<br /><br />Sterling Gates,<br /><br />if you are happening to read this then I just wanted to say how truly and utterly disapointed I am in you for even willing to consider the very thought of killing off Supergirl for as a supposed "long time Supergirl fan" (as you keep claiming to be) this type of thinking shouldn't even enter your mind and instead you ought to be thinking of ways to further IMPROVE on Supergirl in terms of her characterisation aswell as that of her stories being told and BUILDING this very Supergirl's legacy up and NOT tearing her down by wanting to kill her off! The hells' the matter with you!?TalOsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-32992703904785792692010-04-24T10:24:54.047-04:002010-04-24T10:24:54.047-04:00DC Comics could be planning on playing a long term...DC Comics could be planning on playing a long term cat and mouse game with Kara and the Anti-Monitor with us.<br /><br />UNTIL the final battle between the two, they could have many "small" battles over the years messing with our hearts as well as our wallets too.<br /><br />I have noticed DCU writers are starting to move up the corporate ladder there. Johns is moving up it, like how it was with Paul Levitz who got sucked in it and away from writing LoSH for decades. It could be only a matter of time before Gates gets offered a carrot or two to climb up that corporate ladder too and leave it all behind. Which I hope will not happen.valerie21601http://www.fanfiction.net/~valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-33282527930361466712010-04-24T06:40:42.468-04:002010-04-24T06:40:42.468-04:00Well, I am hoping that the statement from Brainiac...Well, I am hoping that the statement from Brainiac 5 doesn't mean DC is planning Supergirl's death any time soon.<br /><br />The book is a success, the character is popular, there are mainstream crossovers in clothes and toys. I don't think now would be the right time for DC to pull the plug.<br /><br />But maybe I am just being an optimist for once.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-88515529458338266962010-04-24T00:56:19.084-04:002010-04-24T00:56:19.084-04:00I mean, I just don't get it, Sterling has gone...I mean, I just don't get it, Sterling has gone on record numerous times claiming to be a "huge Supergirl fan" like the rest of us yet he has out of nowhere came up with deciding on her now having to supposedly die BEFORE the 31st Century (in accordance to adult Brainy) and this out of nowhere startling 180 revelation just does not not only not sit well with me AT ALL but has me truly questioning just how true of a Kara Zor-El/Supergirl fan he is at the end of the day if after having going through all of that effort to build her character up is now more then willing to apparently kill her off! Seriously, WTF?? 0_0<br /><br />Do PTB up at DC seriously no longer want their Supergirl being known world over as being that of Superman's actual beautiful teen Kryptonian cousin going by "Kara Zor-El" all of a sudden now and would much prefer her being someone else entirely henceforth?? Didn't they learn their lesson the first time upon doing just this with both Matrix (not including Linda) and later Cir-El that it will only bite them in the ass big time and not only cost them fans/readers but long term sales too? And what about DC dedicating the return of Kara Zor-El proper to the main DCU to the late and great Christopher Reeve like they did come that final page of "The Supergirl from Krypton" saga in Superman/Batman title? Was that only intended to publicly greedily cash in on that poor man's death not to mention also Michael Turner's work here too?? As one of MANY longtime loyal fans of Supergirl this all has me seriously worried! DC has already re-established their character Supergirl being Superman's beautiful teen Kryptonian cousin Kara Zor-El for the 21st Century by not only via her return to the main DCU proper via comics but also via TV medium with "Smallville" too and for them to just throw all of that effort away in favour of dabbling on YET ANOTHER possible Supergirl after Kara seemingly now dies well and truly BEFORE the 31st Century just not only makes no iota of sense to me long term sales and business wise but recognition factor wise too when they refer to Supergirl who the general public know her as being this beautiful caucasian, light blue eyed, blonde haired teen girl who is in some way related to Superman's family.<br /><br />valerie21601, you can definitely include me in trying to get Supergirl shipped off to the 31st Century proper to henceforth reside with her one true love Brainy if it means it will achieve in saving OUR Supergirl in the long run! (And maybe in time (no pun intended) even give us their heir Kingdom Come's own Kara Dox/"XTC" as a bonus. ;-D )TalOsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-21208279220827494042010-04-23T21:14:58.414-04:002010-04-23T21:14:58.414-04:00Right now a few people and I are working on planti...Right now a few people and I are working on planting seeds on Kara and Querl's daughter. Now that we know Kara is still fated to an early death. We got to save the mother too!<br /><br />Whenever people can politely "chat" with Gates and Igle ask them about Kara Dox, about Kara Zor-El's early death, and about moving her to the 31st century to be with B5. Show them pictures of Kara Dox aka XTC in her pink and white uniform. I have a lovely picture I found and saved on the web of her done by an artist name McKelvey on my deviantart.com profile page. Print out a color copy or two and give them one. But ALWAYS be polite about it.<br /><br />Be ready for more info later or email me at Deviantart.com and wait for more orders while I/we fumble my/our way around in the dark here.valerie21601http://www/fanfiction.net/~valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-10304608732810909982010-04-23T20:59:13.407-04:002010-04-23T20:59:13.407-04:00I do too Bubbly Bunny.
We may have to unite in or...I do too Bubbly Bunny.<br /><br />We may have to unite in order to make sure the death of Supergirl "DOESN'T" happen again. Or at least get her shipped off to a part of the DC Universe where this version of her character can still live and her fans can still enjoy her. After all I have read and heard interviews that one of the reasons the LoSH is a favorite with writers is that the Legion isn't an active part of the DCU except for an occasional story line now and then. All sorts of things can happen in the DCU and the Legion isn't involved in it. Like how they keep Power Girl mostly to JSA stories. This would let them have their "new" Supergirl and screw her up for the next 25 years.<br /><br />Who knows maybe a great writer will happen along and come up with a great story and a great reason why there are so many Kara's walking around in the DCU one day?valerie21601http://www.fanfiction.net/~valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-67411320501426325322010-04-23T17:57:01.855-04:002010-04-23T17:57:01.855-04:00Hey maybe the green skinned Super in Kingdom Come ...Hey maybe the green skinned Super in Kingdom Come could end up being their daughter. I hope we never actually see Kara die it would be terrible i can't handle another Supergirl there have been like 6. <br />I sort of felt like after Crisis we had a choice between Power Girl or just deal with not having a Supergirl. And that the only Kara we could talk about was Power Girl. <br />I am a big shipper of this relationship and hope to see it followed through as long as Supergirl is around. WHICH BETTER BE FOREVER!Bubbly Bunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16682006419752769214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-54192361369249415822010-04-23T10:51:58.684-04:002010-04-23T10:51:58.684-04:00Not if us, SUPERGIRL fans can help it! TalOs!
Som...Not if us, SUPERGIRL fans can help it! TalOs!<br /><br />Some of us, Kara and Brainy shippers are starting to form plans and possibly making a website dedicated to STOPPING THIS! If they can KEEP Power Girl (another version of Kara) in the DC Universe. And they mainly they keep PG around because the combination of her body and her personality. <br /><br />We say ship her off to the 31st century to stay with Brainy and the LoSH for good! Where they can stay a couple for a long time until a future writer gives them some problems. Even as a permanent couple it doesn't mean they will have an easy life together, especially if they stay in the LoSH, there are so many possible stories that could be written about them even if they got married and had kids too.valerie21601http://www.fanfiction.net/~valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-70184629235957321952010-04-23T10:28:47.230-04:002010-04-23T10:28:47.230-04:00ARGH! Bite your tongue come that last bit about th...ARGH! Bite your tongue come that last bit about the Anti-Monitor and Kara's possible death, valerie21601.<br /><br />Question: Geoff Johns recently claimed that "DC One Million" is in actual main DCU Earth continuity still so if this is the very case then why does Kal-El get the right to actually live out his life right through to that of the actual 853rd Century yet Kara supposedly dies well BEFORE the 31st Century? Doesn't Sterling think Kara deserves the very same longevity treatment like her cousin. >:-(TalOsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-87188277800084296492010-04-23T08:55:39.598-04:002010-04-23T08:55:39.598-04:00I had to think about the time travel factors in it...I had to think about the time travel factors in it too.<br /><br />Then it came to me in the JLU: Far From Home episode. When Brainy and Chuck are talking they said history says, three left but only two came home. They simply "assumed" Kara died in the 31st century. It might have been known she "disappeared or left" the Justice League but the weight of the years it somehow became "died" and became part of the Superman myths in their world.<br /><br />Depending on how it's handled Supergirl or her body could simply "disappear" and it shows up in the 31st century, waiting to be revived like Conner was. It seems DC Comics is reviving the Anti-Monitor, in the Blackest Night story line, can Kara's "death" be too far behind?valerie21601http://www.fanfiction.net/~valerie21601noreply@blogger.com