tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post1492927463590811277..comments2024-03-27T19:22:03.112-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Newsarama Interview With Scott LobdellAnjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-70361363365929135962013-01-13T19:15:47.390-05:002013-01-13T19:15:47.390-05:00Thanks for defending me and for being open to my o...Thanks for defending me and for being open to my opinions. Like I said, I was not being presumptuous and I was going off of what I've read from the comics and the interviews about the crossover. And that "gonna make you feel old" part was just a joke how you said that my comment in your review about "Superman #15" made you feel old. Please consider the words in my first comment here and try to let them have you reconsider your thoughts about this crossover. PRgirl1294https://www.blogger.com/profile/17851850537996919465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-7052585320186498352013-01-13T18:58:53.907-05:002013-01-13T18:58:53.907-05:00I'm not trying to be rude and I am not being p...I'm not trying to be rude and I am not being presumptuous. I am going off of what I have read from the issues about these characters and from the interviews that the creators have done about the crossover, in case you didn't notice from the website that I had cited in my comment. Please try to read my comments completely and throughly before you call them rude, graceless, or presumptuous. PRgirl1294https://www.blogger.com/profile/17851850537996919465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-27724488806834117432013-01-13T18:55:12.674-05:002013-01-13T18:55:12.674-05:00Anonymous, thanks for coming to my defense. But th...Anonymous, thanks for coming to my defense. But the truth is I didn't mind the post. <br /><br />I hope this is a place where people can talk about their takes on comic in a semi-serious, non-trolling, non-belligerent way.<br /><br />It is pretty clear that PRGirl and I differ in opinion. But I still want to hear hers because maybe she will sway me or help me understand another segment of Supergirl's fandom.<br /><br />Anyways, I like the discussions that come up here. Even if they remind me I'm old.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-43252970482306515282013-01-13T08:25:05.987-05:002013-01-13T08:25:05.987-05:00What a rude and graceless comment from PRgirl1294....What a rude and graceless comment from PRgirl1294. It doesn't even have the merit of being interesting or insightful...just long and presumptuous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-11781416109335908502013-01-10T23:15:27.731-05:002013-01-10T23:15:27.731-05:00I'd like to make a few responses to your blog ...I'd like to make a few responses to your blog that are probably gonna make you feel old.<br /><br />1. "Is it me, or do none of these characters sound like they are, in any way, happy?<br /><br />Superman is lonely ... and maybe a little resentful or jealous of Kara's Kryptonian history.<br /><br />Superboy thinks the S-shield is his and has no allegiance to Earth or Krypton. No allegiance to Earth despite having made friends with the Ravagers and Titans, despite living the high life on stolen money, despite having been almost killed by H'El? If despite all that he might watch Earth die then he is disturbed."<br /><br />I know that you're upset about how these characters are gonna seem unhappy, but this is what's gonna make the next few stories interesting. It's called drama and without it, there wouldn't even be a story. As for the problems that you say that Superman and Superboy are having, at least some of this is probably gonna be solved by the end of this crossover. Tom DeFalco confirms here (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=40940) that Superboy's relationships with Earth, his roots, and the Super-family will be redefined in this crossover and that he won't be so ambivalent anymore.<br /><br />2. "Supergirl has no personal regard or even respect for the Justice League.<br /><br />I don't care if she is new to the world. It just doesn't sound right or feel right.<br /><br />She falls for H'El's lies. She has no respect for the Justice League. She turns her back on Superman. What an awful story this has been and is going to be for Supergirl. <br /><br />Who is the current editor who is approving this character assassination?"<br /><br />I understand that you remember Kara as someone who respects the Justice League and cares for Earth, but try to understand that that Kara had a different background. That Kara was probably taught to respect Earth and once she got to Earth, she had the Big Three as mentors. But this Kara likely wasn't taught much about Earth and when she got to Earth, she ended up in the wrong place (which I'm thinking is H'el's doing) and she had to survive Earth mostly on her own. So of course she doesn't know much about Earth's heroes and isn't gonna respect the JL at first. But she'll learn to respect them as warriors when they kick her butt and as people when she learns their true intentions. As for H'el, as Lobdell said, he actually has noble intentions that Kara understands and she's been through so much that she is desperate to get home. And as the solicits for "Superman #14" say, he's smarter than her. But I'm sure that she'll realize the error of her ways by the end of the crossover.PRgirl1294https://www.blogger.com/profile/17851850537996919465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-32350254915074331752013-01-10T22:50:16.659-05:002013-01-10T22:50:16.659-05:00Yup Kousin Kara is being jobbed out once again, al...Yup Kousin Kara is being jobbed out once again, all to make Kal El look like Top Mook of the Universe.<br />Same old same old, DC editorial approaches Kal and Kara like they are a Zero Sum Game, his wins are equal to her losses...this has literally been the metaphoric problem from 1959 until today.<br />They could try something different, but that means a different concept of each character and DC is not comfortable with change that isn't profit or sensation driven.<br />I am almost at the point where I think Supergirl is better off in some alternate reality where she is Top Mook, no Superman to drag on her cape. <br />At least it would be something different for real...<br /><br />JFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-18966362321260238802013-01-10T22:11:25.780-05:002013-01-10T22:11:25.780-05:00I knew Superman would be facing hard times when Ma...I knew Superman would be facing hard times when Matt Idelson said he would do everything in his power and fight to the bitter end to keep Clark and Lois separated FOREVER. <br /><br />The dark picture Johnson/Green, painted of Supergirl wasn't a good sign for the series. (Even now Johnson still paints a dark future for Kara.)<br /><br />Having Superboy be in one crossover right after another wasn't a good sign (to me).<br /><br /><br />Now Berganza is in charge of all of the Super line and knowing his past with Supergirl doesn't fill me with hope.<br /><br />Something tells me the Super Family will be facing dark days in sales and darker story lines until something snaps.valerie21601http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2093237/valerie21601noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-83786618610994184472013-01-10T17:54:19.261-05:002013-01-10T17:54:19.261-05:00Thanks for the comments.
I agree Dave that these ...Thanks for the comments.<br /><br />I agree Dave that these interviews are often fluff pieces and often don't mirror reality. Heck, The Green/Johnson Supergirl is a perfect example where the interviews and publicity pieces paint a darker picture.<br /><br />Part of my beef here is that I actually have a sample of Lobdell's work on Superman and then read all these things which *do* seem to line up with these comments.<br /><br />I don't think you are being superior by asking for moderation! There is too much extremism on the internet. So a voice of reason is always welcome! I try sometimes to be that voice.<br /><br />In the end, I guess I have been unimpressed with Lobdell's work so far, his representation of Superman. And these things add some fuel to the fire.<br /> Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-81132460357811017412013-01-10T17:47:00.068-05:002013-01-10T17:47:00.068-05:00I'll take the moderate ground here, step up on...I'll take the moderate ground here, step up onto my pedestal, and ask people please don't read <i>too</i> much into these interviews like this!<br /><br />I've read quite a few creator interviews since the New 52 initiative launched and they all follow the same broad template as this one of Lobdell's does, yes they are usually very informative but above all else they are promotional tools. The equivalent to movie press packages and their interviews with the gushing stars.<br /><br />The writer/artist is promoting their own work and the directive's of their editor & publisher, so yes there's a lot of stuff being said and a lot of stuff which is either A]Likely to be taken out of the intended context. <br />B]Deliberately intended as provocative.<br />Or C]The creator rambling on and saying silly things without meaning to.<br /><br />One of my favorite such interviews actually came from Tony Bedard promoting his Blue Beetle book, at one point he defends the wiping of Beetle's (somewhat brief) previous continuity as: <i>"..it’s essentially the same character we enjoyed on the last go-round, but more accessible and less convoluted. Which also describes [DC Comics: The New 52]. We’re not throwing out what was great about our universe and our characters. Batman is still Batman, Superman is still Superman. It’s just that after 75 years of stories, we’re just updating and simplifying for a new generation of readers."</i><br />...He then enthusiastically goes into some depth about his work on the New Guardians, a book that is <b>undoubtedly</b> one of DCs most convoluted and mythology heavy books... *sigh* <br /><br />I hope I'm not sounding superior, that isn't at all my intention, but getting so irate about interviews such as this isn't the sensible thing to do in my opinion. It's usually just creators running off at the mouth or pushing a deliberate marketing agenda...Dave Mullennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-9989044929918806492013-01-10T10:37:39.165-05:002013-01-10T10:37:39.165-05:00Is it me, or do none of these characters sound lik...<i>Is it me, or do none of these characters sound like they are, in any way, happy?</i><br /><br />No, it's not you. Everyone sounds like they's just miserable, angry, resentful, and bitter. It's a pretty unappealing mix.<br /><br /><i>She falls for H'El's lies. She has no respect for the Justice League. She turns her back on Superman. What an awful story this has been and is going to be for Supergirl. </i><br /><br />Supergirl had been going in an interesting direction. It wasn't necessarily the Supergirl I wanted, but it was a good read. This sounds pretty awful, but it does sound very much like a Scott Lobdell story. Supergirl via Red Hood.<br /><br /><i>Who is the current editor who is approving this character assassination?</i><br /><br />Funny how Eddie Berganza gets involved and we're back to this stuff. I guess we should be happy she hasn't erupted in crystals or killed any classmates yet. <br /><br />I think it's odd that while Supergirl was going so well we were seeing regular art updates from Mahmud Asrar and numerous interesting and encouraging interviews with Green and Johnson. Now that we're into LobH'Ell we're getting this sort of commentary, Green & Johnson's interviews have stopped completely, Asrar has pretty much stopped posting Supergirl art, and Johnson as not only stopped Tweating but his Twitter account (mikecomix) no longer exists.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com