tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post1354660419271215326..comments2024-03-28T20:51:56.173-04:00Comments on Supergirl Comic Box Commentary: Why DC Needs VibeAnjhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-80763145626404960162013-09-07T12:48:02.847-04:002013-09-07T12:48:02.847-04:00I was just reading an article at Newsarama and it ...I was just reading an article at <a href="http://www.newsarama.com/18869-the-new-52-two-years-later-the-worst-of-the-dc-reboot.html" rel="nofollow">Newsarama</a> and it made me think of this article. About how basically "Hope" is dead in the DCU. It's on page 6. Its sad that instead of fun inspirational stories we get dark and gritty ones. I put this on the similar vein of Marvel and their movie franchises, they try to bring them into the comics. Well DC is like Nolan's Batman worked so well lets make the entire New 52 like that.GettinJigglyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09312034709591846208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-16482231300267798092013-09-01T18:48:03.960-04:002013-09-01T18:48:03.960-04:00Thanks for the new posts.
LJ, you aren't the ...Thanks for the new posts.<br /><br />LJ, you aren't the first person who has said that I should head to Ultimate Marvel. <br /><br />Mart, I understand and agree with everything you say. I have been enjoying Wonder Woman because I have been reading it as a sort of Elseworlds book. But I can understand why long time Diana fans can be disappointed.<br /><br />Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-24996146661365990222013-09-01T18:12:48.494-04:002013-09-01T18:12:48.494-04:00Thanks for a terrific piece, Anj. And look, alread...Thanks for a terrific piece, Anj. And look, already you've got some interest going. It is so refreshing to read a book about a good person, inspiring those around him to be better, in a comic that's full of action and intrigue. Vibe has heart. <br /><br />Jay, it's good to read your comments but I think you missed Anj's point - yes, he enjoys some dark books, but it doesn't logically follow that he'd therefore enjoy an all-grim DC Universe. DC Comics today is trying far too hard for a Marvel tone, with characters who are X-Men unpopular and Wolverine-edgy, and it simply isn't working. If there's a lesson DC should be taking from Wolverine it's 'be the best at what you do'. Embrace the history, the legacies, the occasional goofiness and, most of all, the basic brightness of the universe - give us inspirational heroes, ones who can have bad days, make the occasional rubbish decision from which to learn, sure, but heroes who are immediately recognisable as such. Good people, fighting for a better world. I don't want to have to strain to discern the anti-heroes and villains from the heroes. <br /><br />The new 52 has driven me away from Wonder Woman after decades of being a fan. The New 52 has taken the Legion away from me. The New 52 means I don't know from month to month whether I'll get a Superboy who's a hero, a crook or a confused puppet. The New 52 has broken Kara. <br /><br />The New 52 isn't working. Vibe should be the model for a refreshed, more traditional line. I want the best DC, not a pale Marvel. Martin Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09574149543260175962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-25852614900708415922013-08-30T13:45:15.636-04:002013-08-30T13:45:15.636-04:00I would recommend Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man if y...I would recommend Ultimate Comics: Spider-Man if you're interested in a good, heroic teen superhero. I'm serious, Miles Morales is a fantastic character and I really believe you would love the book Anj.<br /><br />Seriously, everything you just said, that book has it in spades.LJ-90https://www.blogger.com/profile/09786120657682897989noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-84512598266144339332013-08-30T02:03:01.878-04:002013-08-30T02:03:01.878-04:00Dan Didio is obsessed with dark and gritty; he won...Dan Didio is obsessed with dark and gritty; he won't be satisfied if every DC comic is like Frank Miller's Dark Knight Returns. When Kevin Maguire was taken off Justice League 3000 for not being dark enough, that's an indicator of his obsession. I just couldn't handle the current Batgirl anymore, with the angst, severed limbs, serial killers. I love my share of dark titles too, when it's appropriate...otherwise, it ends up being a sad joke (like when Speedball turned into Penance over at Marvel). It's all about balance.<br /><br />Sadly, it's also not just Dan Didio, fans are simply too closed-minded to support any books that aren't Bat/Super/Justice League related - thus genuinely interesting books are cancelled before their time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-91515584836137989852013-08-29T19:45:12.592-04:002013-08-29T19:45:12.592-04:00While you've got a decent point Jay, I'd a...While you've got a decent point Jay, I'd argue that DC could do with some more levity because there needs to be room for some less intense stuff in pop culture, and historically their characters have been good at providing it. Sure we can all enjoy our Breaking Bads, Walking Deads and Game of Thrones', but if you decide you're not in the mood for heavy shit and say to yourself "I'd like to see what Superman is doing", pick up his book and find him angry and borderline villainous, you might be a bit miffed. Sure there can be dark superheroes but why does Superman have to be one? Or Wonder Woman?<br /><br />Last week events in Supergirl made mentally recall certain shocking plot points in Game of Thrones. Yeah sure, you got my attention, writers, just as George R.R. Martin's plots did (and I'm sure it was IN NO WAY a stunt to carry momentum over the missing month or anything cynical like that, oh no, of course not). But I was reading a book about the teenage cousin of Superman, not watching a harsh, played-completely-straight deconstruction of fantasy tropes on HBO. Maybe I'm just too old-fashioned in my creaking old age that is my late 20s, but for me to be making those comparisons about the book starring a character originally created to be the less idealised but younger, more optimistic and perhaps more relatable (especially to kids and girls in particular) counterpart to THE iconic superhero is something I never thought I'd be doing.<br /><br />To mis-quote Linkara, "And people wonder why these characters are more popular on the small screen these days."AndNowInStereohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14021894582408478305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-6835770911718710922013-08-29T18:01:50.767-04:002013-08-29T18:01:50.767-04:00Thanks for the suggestion Saranga.
I'll see i...Thanks for the suggestion Saranga.<br /><br />I'll see if I can grab some Larfleeze.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-30998204367876068642013-08-29T18:01:18.729-04:002013-08-29T18:01:18.729-04:00Thanks for the interesting and indepth comment Jay...Thanks for the interesting and indepth comment Jay.<br /><br />I don't mind some darker elements in the DCU. I read Suicide Squad and Justice League Dark. But why does that tone need to be in all the DC books.<br /><br />But I don't want <i>only </i> ja dark DCU. I do think that JL and Amethyst were darker than I expect out of a team of our primary heroes and a teenage fantasy princess.<br /><br />I don't even know if I would call Vibe lighthearted fun. It's not a humor book. It's a more positive hero.<br /><br />Your point a hero becoming darker is well taken. But why does the DC universe need to constantly turn on its heroes as you say they do. Can't people be inspired by their good work?<br /><br />I guess it is all in your point of view. <br /><br />I am glad you are enjoying Vibe too.Anjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10023193805914075078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-63497405360560273502013-08-29T16:18:46.450-04:002013-08-29T16:18:46.450-04:00I totally agree VIBE is a fantastic series that ge...I totally agree VIBE is a fantastic series that gets criminally overlooked each and every month. I review VIBE for DCComicsNews.com and I've really grown to love the title. And I agree that, for lighthearted fun, VIBE is the series to go with in the 'New 52'<br /><br />But what's so wrong with a darker DC universe? I see that you enjoy darker books, but that fact doesn't make your argument stronger. In fact, what you've done is prove that your argument for a lighter DC universe isn't very strong at all. If you enjoy darker books, why not just sit back and enjoy the darker tones being presented by DC? You're basically laying down a double standard for DC's books as opposed to titles from indie publishers. Why is it okay that FATALE, SATELLITE SAM, and REVIVAL are dark in tone, but it's unacceptable for Superman to be less than a boy scout?<br /><br />"Throughout this new universe, I kept looking for a least one book that might have a different viewpoint, a book where characters were being heroes because it is the right thing to do. Someone who realizes that in this world it is harder to be good but you have to"<br /><br />This is EXACTLY what DC is doing in the 'New 52'. In the Silver Age, comics were more lighthearted because everything was more lighthearted: movies, TV, music, everything. Comics are darker now because media is more realistic and gritty than ever before. In fact, Superman makes MORE sense in the 'New 52' than he ever did before. <br /><br />A being with nigh-limitless power decides he wants to do good and the entire world is against him in some manner or another. If you were just trying to help and were faced with hatred day in and day out, wouldn't you be a bit less chipper and upbeat?<br /><br />You seem to have a very pessimistic view of the DCnU in general, as well. You mentioned AMETHYST and JUSTICE LEAGUE as dark, dark books, which they are not. AMETHYST had some of the most lighthearted tones in ANY 'New 52' title. JUSTICE LEAGUE isn't as much dark as it is pragmatic: this is a title that's used to set the status quo of the DCnU, so certain things happen that will affect other things around the shared universe. Sometimes, those events are dark. But did you read JUSTICE LEAGUE #8? It was a fun look at Green Arrow trying to become a member.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02877819089794634893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2669531469217423923.post-63371636922060921632013-08-29T12:31:33.023-04:002013-08-29T12:31:33.023-04:00You've convinced me to try out the title.
if ...You've convinced me to try out the title.<br /><br />if you want something lighthearted and fun can I suggest you try Larfleeze? It's fab.Sarangahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03545162612237984546noreply@blogger.com